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well done whoever wrote this

Bottom Line on Jim's experiment given by Millis at DARPA-NASA 10-1-11 was essentially a repeat of this:

"Independent verification experiments,
using techniques less prone to spurious
effects, were unable to reliably confirm
or dismiss the claims. [30] Woodward and
others continue with experiments and
publications to make the effect more
pronounced and to more clearly separate
the claimed effects from experimental
artifacts. This oscillatory inertia
approach is considered unresolved."

On Dec 30, 2011, at 5:38 PM, R005T3R wrote:

Almost 48 years ago, Sir Freddy wrote:

"It has often been said that, if the human species
fails to make a go of it here on Earth, some
other species will take over the running. In the
sense of developing high intelligence this is not
correct. We have, or soon will have, exhausted
the necessary physical prerequisites so far as this
planet is concerned. With coal gone, oil gone,
high-grade metallic ores gone, no species however
competent can make the long climb from primitive
conditions to high-level technology. This is a
one-shot affair. If we fail, this planetary system
fails so far as intelligence is concerned. The same
will be true of other planetary systems. On each
of them there will be one chance, and one chance
only."    -- Sir Fred Hoyle,
             "Of Men and Galaxies," 1964

       ***********************

Almost 6 years ago, Daniel Pinchbeck wrote:

[...] "The Catholic mystic Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
foresaw the development of a 'new, integrated mind' of
global humanity, calling it the 'noosphere,' from the
Greek word nous, meaning mind. Noting that our planet
consists of various layers -- a mineral lithosphere,
hydrosphere, biosphere, and atmosphere consisting of
troposphere, stratosphere, and ionosphere -- Chardin
theorized the possible existence of a mental envelope,
a layer of thought, encompassing the Earth.
The 'hominization' of the Earth had concluded the
phase of physical evolution, during which species
multiplied and developed new powers, leading to an
entropic breakdown of the biosphere. This process,
Chardin realized, requiring the tapping of the stored
energy and amassed mineral resources of the planet,
could happen only once." [...] Pg. 60; Part One:
               A Universe In Ruins; Chapter Five |
               2012 - The Return of Quetzalcoatl
               by Daniel Pinchbeck (c) 2006

       ***********************

Tamara Davis's PhD shows more precisely Teilhard's idea


Seth Lloyd showed that horizons are computers.

     "When our ships entered your skies
a century and a half ago, that was the
first meeting of our two races, though
of course we had studied you from a
distance.  And yet you feared and
recognized us, as we knew that you
would.  It was not precisely a memory.
You have already had proof that time
is more complex than your science ever
imagined.  For that memory was not of
the past, but of the 'future'--of those
closing years when your race knew that
everything was finished.  We did what
we could, but it was not an easy end.
And because we were there, we became
identified with your race's death.
Yes, even while it was ten thousand
years in the future!  It was as if a
distorted echo had reverberated round
the closed circle of time, from the
future to the past.  Call it not a
memory, but a premonition." - Karellen
                    Pg. 207 - PART III
                            Chapter 23  
                   The Last Generation  
                       CHILDHOOD'S END
             Arthur C. Clarke (c) 1953  
                 ISBN: 345-02750-7-125

Childhood's End ...
http://tinyurl.com/A-C-Clarke-1953
... is a science fiction novel by Sir Arthur C. Clarke.
It was originally published in 1953, and a version with
a new first chapter was released in 1990 due to the
anachronistic nature of the opening chapter (the first
attempts to launch rockets into orbit by both the
Americans and Russians are in progress but aborted
suddenly when aliens arrive, with a sense of the death
of a dream). This story was originally a short story
dubbed Guardian Angel which Clarke first published in
1950 for the Famous Fantastic Mysteries magazine.
It is basically the novel's section after the prologue,
Earth and the Overlords but with some different text
in certain places.

Childhood's End is about humanity's transformation
and integration to an interstellar hive mind,
the Occult, man's inability to live in a utopian
society, cruelty to animals, and the idea of being
"The Last Man on Earth". The 1953 edition of the
story begins when enormous alien spaceships one day
appear above all of the Earth's major cities.
The aliens, who become known as the Overlords,
quickly communicate by radio, announcing benign
intention and desire to help mankind. They quickly
end the arms race and colonialism. They also arrange
personal, though not face-to-face, meetings between
Secretary General of the United Nations Rikki Stormgren
and Karellen, the Overlord leader, albeit via two-way
mirror, so that the earthman cannot see the
extraterrestrial alien. Karellen has a special
relationship with Stormgren, though short of
traditional friendship. The Overlords promise to
reveal themselves in fifty years, after which time
mankind will have lost their prejudice, becoming
comfortable with their presence. Mankind enters a
golden age of the greatest peace and prosperity
ever known, but at the expense of some creativity
and freedom; not every Earthling is content with
the bargain, nor accepts the beneficence of the
Overlords' long-term intentions. Although Stormgren,
with Karellen's help, survives kidnap by subversive
humans suspicious of the Overlords, he secretly
harbours lingering curiosity about the real Overlord
nature and smuggles a device aboard Karellen's
spaceship to see behind the screen. Yet, he later
tells questioners the device failed; the novel
strongly hints that Stormgren agrees with the
Overlords that mankind are unready for what he
saw revealed. True to their word, fifty years
after arrival, the Overlords appear in person.
They are beings resembling the traditional human
folklore image of demons: bipeds with large wings,
horned heads, and tails. The Overlords are taller
than humans and of proportionally more massive
bodies covered with a hard, black armour shell.
They are greatly photosensitive to yellow sunlight,
because they are from a planet with a dimmer
light spectrum, and, though they can breathe
Earth air, they prefer their own specific
atmosphere gas. Mankind accept them with open arms,
and with their help, create an utopian world.
Although humanity and the Overlords are in good
relations, the spread of equal goods and the ban
on building space ships that can travel past the
moon causes sects of humanity to believe their
innovation and independence is being stagnated.
In response, those sects establish the New Athens
island colony.

After one hundred years on earth, human children
(starting in New Athens) begin displaying
telepathic and telekinetic abilities. Because of
that, they soon become distant from their parents.
Karellen then reveals the true purpose of why the
Overlords came to Earth. They are in service to
the Overmind, an amorphous being of pure energy.
It has charged them with the duty of fostering
humanity's transition to a higher plane of
existence and merger with the Overmind. Also,
the Overlords' resemblance to the devil of human
folklore is explained with the concept of racial
memory unlimited by humanity's linear concept
of time; hence, fear of them was based upon
instinct, the foreknowledge that they herald
the end of the human species. Karellen announces
that the children will be quarantined on a
continent of their own and because of them, all
hopes of humanity are over because it will only
be the children who will merge with the Overmind.
The Overlords are also shown to be trapped in an
evolutionary dead end who will never merge with
the Overmind, and thus are doomed to forever
do its bidding. Because of this, Karellen states
his race will forever envy humanity. Despite how
the Overlords are trapped in their current forms,
Karellen hopes that his race will learn what
causes the stage that will be taken by the
Overmind and that eventually his race will
discover how. Following the quarantine, no more
children are born; the narration subtly hints
that most of the parents commit suicide, while
their children evolve towards merging with the
Overmind. New Athens is then destroyed by the
leaders detonating a nuclear bomb on it.
The last man alive is Jan Rodricks, a physicist,
who will witness mankind's final evolutionary
transformation. He stowed away on an Overlord
supply ship earlier in the story in a successful
attempt to travel to the Overlord home planet,
which he correctly guessed orbits a star of the
Carina constellation. As a physicist, Rodricks
knows of the relativistic twin paradox effect:
however brief the round trip to the Overlord
planet is in his subjective, personal time-frame,
the shortest time elapsed on planet Earth, for
a "twin" person of the same age, would be the
round trip light-travel time. Given that the
Overlord planet is forty light-years distant,
at least eighty years elapsed on Earth before
his return (eighty years is the lower limit,
the actual time is longer). Therefore, when
Rodricks returns from the Overlord home world,
he expects no one on Earth will remember him,
nevertheless, he is unprepared for the return:
mankind, as he knew it, died. About three
hundred million naked young beings, physically
human but otherwise with nothing common to Man,
remain on the quarantined continent. They are
the final, physical form of human evolution
before merging with the Overmind. Life -- not
only human life, but all other forms on the
planet -- was exterminated by them, and the
vast cities that Jan remembers are all dark,
worldwide. Although no human beings remain on
Earth, some Overlords remain, studying the
evolved children. The two whom Rodricks knows
are Karellen and Rashaverak; they expected
his return. They briefly remain after Rodricks's
return, trying to understand mankind's
transformation, which is denied to their race
despite its great achievements in other realms.
It also is revealed here that the Overlords
have met and conditioned other races for the
Overmind, and that humanity is the fifth race
the Overmind will collect. When the evolved
children exploit their powers -- altering the
Earth's rotation, effecting other, dangerous
planetary adjustments -- making it too
dangerous to remain, the Overlords prepare
to leave. They offer Rodricks the opportunity
of leaving with them, but he chooses to
remain as witness to Earth's dissolution;
mankind's offspring evolved to a higher
existence, requiring neither a body nor a
place, so ends mankind's childhood.
The story's last scene details Karellen's
final backward look, through space, at the
doomed Solar System. He is emotionally
depressed, having seen yet another race
evolve to the beyond, while he and his race
are limited to their current form. Despite
that, he renders a final salute to mankind,
considering whether or not conditioning them
for the Overmind helped his goal of
deciphering the evolutionary secret for his
race to merge with the Overmind. He then
turns away from the view, the reader presumes,
to await the Overmind's next order.
http://tinyurl.com/A-C-Clarke-1953
     [ Arthur C. Clarke (1917-2008)... ]
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| Subject: Re: Woodward's phi = c^2 only makes sense at
|          event horizons in Einstein's GR for SSS solutions
| Date: Dec 30, 2011 3:12 PM

[JS:]
The obvious error in Jim's logic is to leap scales
by at least 40 powers of ten from Hubble to chemical
bond scales. No cosmologist would agree that that
makes any sense at all.

I am using Siri voice artificial intelligence
on my iPhone 4S.

On Dec 30, 2011, 2:38 PM, Paul Zielinski <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:

[PZ:]
Hi Jim.

I can see how you can get phi = c^2 (contingent on
critical mass density) in a Newtonian model, but
I don't see  how it follows from this contingent
relationship that inertia is reducible to a
gravitational interaction.

Bernstein's argument appears to be based purely
on critical mass density, and not at all on any
Machian hypothesis about the origin of inertia.
It seems to me that the most you can argue is
that phi = c^2 is *consistent* with a Machian
model for inertia.

On 12/30/2011 12:34 PM, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. wrote:

[JW:]
Does phi = c^2 if the universe is spatially flat
at cosmic scale?  The calculation from which this
statement follows is found in essentially all
texts on GR cosmology.  Easily the most transparent
development of the calculation I know of is in
Jeremy Bernstein's Introduction to Cosmology.
  I have scanned the relevant pages and put them
into the attached PPT file for your convenience.

Starting from the consideration of a particle of
mass m located on the periphery of a sphere of
radius R(t) in a universe with homogeneity and
isotropy (the FRW conditions), Bernstein points
out that Newton's second law tells us
that m d^2R/dt^2 = - GmM/R^2.  

[PZ:]
He treats the mass inside the
sphere radius R as being
located at its center.

[JW:]
From this he obtains by integration:

     [dR/dt]^2/2 - GM/R = E

where E is a constant of integration with
dimension "energy" [actually, velocity squared].  

[PZ:]
OK this is just conservation
of the total energy,

[JW:]
Now R is a scale length that, for most purposes,
can be taken to by anything that's convenient.
 But if we take R to be the radius of the universe,
then the second term on the LHS of the above
equation [Bernstein's 2.14] is immediately
recognized as "phi", the total scalar gravitational
potential of the universe.

[PZ:]
So phi is a Newtonian
potential in your theory?

[JW:]
The question is: what is dR/dt when R is the radius
of the universe.  Keep in mind that the identified
velocity is going to be that associated with the
"kinetic" energy that this term represents.  

[PZ:]
OK...

[JW:]
Well, the universe at it radius from any observer
is receding with light speed, so evidently dR/dt
for R = the radius of the universe is just c.  

[PZ:]
Not sure what this means.
Do you mean that any observer
on the periphery sees the
rest of the universe receding
at c?

If so, is that really what
modern cosmology says?
Can you explain your
reasoning here?

[JW:]
And Bernstein's equation 2.14 can be restated
as c^2 - phi = E.  That is, the [non-gravitational]
"kinetic" energy minus the gravitational potential
energy is equal to the integration constant, and
if E = 0, phi = c^2.

[PZ:]
What happened to superluminal recession?
As I understand it, only *local* light
speed is guaranteed to be c in modern
cosmology. The laws of SR only apply
locally. Or am I missing something here?

[JW:]
Spatial flatness corresponds to E = 0, and so
for spatial flatness, phi = c^2.  

[PZ:]
Yes clearly the relationship
phi = c^2 is contingent on
critical density -- a
happenstance. Is that really
a proper basis for a
fundamental law of nature?

[JW:]
It also corresponds to critical cosmic matter
density -- Bernstein's equations 2.17 to 2.20.
 Moreover, if spatial flatness obtains at any
time, then it obtains for all times as Bernstein
points out on page 47, and omega is = 1.

[PZ:]
OK.

[JW:]
All this is just standard FRW cosmology.  

[PZ:]
Not sure about recession
speed having to be c in FRW.

[JW:]
What is not appreciated in all this is that when
phi = c^2, inetial reaction forces are exclusively
gravitational in origin.  

[PZ:]
This seems like a *non sequitur*
to me. On your cosmological assumptions,
phi = c^2 regardless of whether inertia
is or is not Machian. The former is
necessary, but not sufficient, to prove
a Machian hypothesis. Unless you've
skipped some steps in your reasoning,
Could you explain this in more detail?

Regards,
Paul

[JW:]
And when that is true, you can get interesting
effects not normally contemplated.

On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:02 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:


On Dec 30, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Paul Zielinski wrote:

I think any "fusion" here is in the app of the beholder.

i did not mean thermonuclear fusion. In any situation if you increase the negative binding energy you decrease positive mass and release positive energy. This is generally true so that Jim's scheme is "chemical fusion".

Are you still not understanding the Newtonian argument for phi = c^2?

The Newtonian argument applied to masses of elementary particles is complete nonsense for several reasons.

1) you cannot use a cosmological argument at the scale of elementary particles without justification.

Metrics are scale-dependent. In Jim's case we have a discrepancy of about 40 powers of ten.

2) the cosmological metric is not

g00 = 1 - 2GMc^2/r etc.

Therefore, it's completely wrong to use

2GMuniverse/c^2RHubble = 1

phi = 2GMuniverse /RHubble  = c^2

and then argue that by a vague miracle

phi determines the masses of leptons and quarks.

That's completely illogical in my opinion.

Indeed, a much more accurate metric for our FUTURE universe is

g00 = 1 - /\r^2

where we are at r = 0

/\ = 1/RHubble^2

In fact the large-scale metric of our universe is complicated given numerically by Tamara Davis here


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AIP Conference Proceedings / Volume 746

Tweaking Flux Capacitors
http://link.aip.org/link/doi/10.1063/1.1867264

AIP Conf. Proc. 746,
pp. 1345-1352;
doi:10.1063/1.1867264 (8 pages)

SPACE TECHNOLOGY AND APPLICATIONS INT.FORUM-STAIF 2005:
Conf.Thermophys in Micrograv;
Conf Comm/Civil Next Gen.Space Transp;
22nd Symp Space Nucl.Powr Propuls.;
Conf.Human/Robotic Techn.Nat'l Vision Space Expl.;
3rd Symp Space Colon.; 2nd Symp.New Frontiers
Date: 13-17 February 2005
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico (USA)
James F. Woodward

Mass fluctuations that arise from Mach effects
when objects that can store internal energy are
accelerated and their application to the
production of propellantless thrusts are
discussed.


This is not warp drive at all. Jim need to accelerate objects off timelike geodesics.
Even a propellentless engine can still be a off-geodesic "rocket" without stuff ejected.
It's not warp drive unless he means some piece of the ship is oscillating inside it generating a warp for the ship as a whole?

A follow-on experiment to that
reported at STAIF 2004 is described. An effect
of the sort expected continues to be observed.
And it displays scaling behavior distinctive
to Mach effects.
(c) 2005 American Institute of Physics
http://link.aip.org/link/doi/10.1063/1.1867264

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"Flux Capacitors and the Origin of Inertia,"
Foundations of Physics 34, 1475-1514 (2004).

I do not understand how the "Origin of Inertia" has anything to do with a Flux Capacitor?

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Breakthrough Propulsion Physics
Overview Report  07.11.2006
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/overview.html

The following text is based on the report
published in the Annals of the New York
Academy of Sciences , but has been formatted
for HTML presentation.  Although this is
published through a non-NASA venue, the
contents of this government-sponsored work
are available without copyright restrictions
in the US.

ASSESSING POTENTIAL PROPULSION BREAKTHROUGHS
Marc G. Millis
NASA John H. Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field
21000 Brookpark Rd., MS 86-2
Cleveland, OH 44135-3191

ABSTRACT

The term, propulsion breakthrough, refers to
concepts like propellantless space drives and
faster-than-light travel, the kind of
breakthroughs that would make interstellar
exploration practical. Although no such
breakthroughs appear imminent, a variety of
investigations have begun. From 1996-2002, NASA
supported the Breakthrough Propulsion Physics
Project to examine physics in the context of
breakthrough spaceflight. Three facets of these
assessments are now reported: (1) predicting
benefits, (2) selecting research, and (3) recent
technical progress.  Predicting benefits is
challenging since the breakthroughs are still
only notional concepts, but energy can serve as
a basis for comparison. A hypothetical space
drive would require many orders of magnitude
less energy than a rocket for journeys to our
nearest neighboring star. Assessing research
options is challenging when the goals are beyond
known physics and when the implications of
success are profound. To mitigate the challenges,
a selection process is described where:
(a) research tasks are constrained to only
address the immediate unknowns, curious effects
or critical issues, (b) reliability of assertions
is more important than their implications , and
(c) reviewers judge credibility rather than
feasibility . The recent findings of a number of
tasks, some selected using this process, are
discussed. Of the 14 tasks included, 6 reached
null conclusions, 4 remain unresolved, and 4 have
opportunities for sequels. A dominant theme with
the sequels is research about the properties of
space, inertial frames, and the quantum vacuum.

[...]
Unresolved Approaches:

Woodward's Transient Inertial Oscillations:

Experiments and theories published by
James Woodward claim that oscillatory
changes to inertia can be induced by
electromagnetic means [28] and a patent
exists on how this can be used for
propulsion. [29] Conservation of momentum
is satisfied by evoking interpretations
of Mach's principle.
Independent verification experiments,
using techniques less prone to spurious
effects, were unable to reliably confirm
or dismiss the claims. [30] Woodward and
others continue with experiments and
publications to make the effect more
pronounced and to more clearly separate
the claimed effects from experimental
artifacts. This oscillatory inertia
approach is considered unresolved.
[...]
28. Woodward, J. F. 2004. Flux Capacitors
   and the Origin of Inertia. Foundations
   of Physics. 34: 1475-1514.
29. Woodward, J. F. 1994. Method for
   Transiently Altering the Mass of an
   Object to Facilitate Their Transport
   or Change their Stationary Apparent
   Weights. US Patent # 5,280,864.
30. Cramer, J., Fey  & Casissi. 2004.
   Tests of Mach's Principle with a
   Mechanical Oscillator. NASA/CR-2004-213310.
http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/citations/all/cr-2004-213310.html
[...]
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/overview.html

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James F. Woodward
Recent Publications:
 http://physics.fullerton.edu/~jimw/Woodward-3.html
[...]
"Flux Capacitors and the Origin of Inertia,"
Foundations of Physics 34, 1475-1514 (2004).
[...]

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Warp Drive: A New Approach
Authors: Richard Obousy, Gerald Cleaver
http://arxiv.org/abs/0712.1649v6

(Submitted on 11 Dec 2007 (v1),
last revised 8 Feb 2008 (this version, v6))

Abstract:

   Certain classes of higher dimensional models
suggest that the Casimir Effect is a candidate
for the cosmological constant. In this paper we
demonstrate that a sufficiently advanced
civilization could, in principal, manipulate
the radius of the extra dimension to locally
adjust the value of the cosmological constant.
This adjustment could be tuned to generate an
expansion/contraction of spacetime around a
spacecraft creating an exotic form of
field-propulsion. Due to the fact that spacetime
expansion itself is not restricted by relativity,
a faster-than-light 'warp drive' could be created.
Calculations of the energy requirements of such
a drive are performed and an 'ultimate' speed limit,
based on the Planckian limits on the size of the
extra dimensions is found.

Comments:  
15 pages. To be published in JBIS
Subjects:  
 General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology (gr-qc)
Cite as:  
 arXiv:0712.1649v6 [gr-qc]
  http://arxiv.org/abs/0712.1649v6
________________________________

Richard Obousy
http://www.richardobousyconsulting.com/warp_drive.html

Richard Obousy Consulting LLC
 Houston
 Texas, 77054
 Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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|     Subject: Re: Woodward's phi = c^2 only makes sense at
|              event horizons in Einstein's GR for SSS solutions

   Fair enough Jack.  As I said, in the pre-inflation
era this was common knowledge, ensconced, for example,
in the title of Weinberg's popular book on cosmology
"the three pound universe" and the like (if memory serves).  
I got rid of those sorts of books several years ago, so I
can't give exact references.  But Jeremy Bernstein's book
on cosmology has the related math, so I'll copy a few
pages of that and provide a little commentary.
 Tomorrow with a little luck. . . .

Jim

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On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:45 AM, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. wrote:

 Phi is also = c^2 for FRW cosmologies in the special
 case of cosmic scale spatial flatness which
 corresponds to "critical" cosmic matter density.

[ Sarfatti wrote: ]

  I do not understand the above sentence at all.
  Please show with the mathematics exactly what
  you are talking about.

[EQUATION OMITTED]

Where is phi here?

  http://tinyurl.com/wiki-Walker-FLRW-metric

[ Woodward wrote: ]

  Back in the pre-inflationary epoch, this used
 to be common knowlege.  The math of Mach effects
 can be found in several peer reviewed papers, the
 most detailed being "Flux Capacitors and the
 Origin of Inertia," Found. Phys., 2004.  It will
 also be in the forthcoming book on this I am
 writing for Springer.  Soon to be completed.  :-)

--- On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 02:09:50, Koyaanisqatsi Fahrvergnugen wrote:

The Confused Pufferfish and The Dislocated Platypus:

"...Woodward's phi = c^2 only makes sense
 at event horizons in Einstein's GR
  for SSS solutions..."

The Dislocated Platypus <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:
<>
<> On Dec 28, 2011, at 5:14 PM,
<> The Confused Pufferfish <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> said:
<>
<> <> Dear Dislocated Platypus,
<> <>
<> <> Just as an afterthought please allow I note to you,
<> <> that Jim's theory in no way violates E=MC^2.

The Dislocated Platypus said:

<> Never said it did.

The Confused Pufferfish said:

<> <>  Jim has never proposed he can violate this.
<> <>
<> <> There is a fantastical difference between the energy
<> <> needed to alter a mass, as compared to what is
<> <> necessary to temporarily fluctuate it, and it is
<> <> using this temporary fluctuation that is the "sneaky
<> <> trick" behind Jim's theory.

The Dislocated Platypus said:

<> Prove it. Where is the math?
<> What is the physics theory behind it?

The Confused, but humble (in his opinion), Pufferfish said:

<> <> Unless and until you get this, you do
<> <> not understand Jim's theory well
<> <> enough to comment on it, IMHO.

The Dislocated Platypus said:

<> I am simply stating that c^2 = phi makes no sense to
<> me and how to go from it to the actual mass spectrum
<> makes even less sense.
<>
<> In the simplest SSS metric of GR
<>
<> g00 = 1 + phi/c^2
<>
<> ex 1. Schwarzschild
<>
<> phi = -c^22rs/r
<>
<> rs/r < 1
<>
<> ex 2 de Sitter dark energy
<>
<> phi = -c^2/\r^2
<>
<> Therefore, Woodward's solution appears
<> inconsistent - at best it means globally
<> flat Minkowski space seen in inertial frames.
<>
<> i.e. /\r^2 = 1
<>
<> 2rs/r = 1
<>
<> Of course both those conditions describe
<> event horizons as in the world hologram model
<> that the interior bulk is an image of the
<> surrounding surface event horizons. I have been
<> saying that Mach's Principle needs to be
<> reinterpreted as the Hologram Principle.
<>
<> [A Very Nice Image Indeed Was Here]

The Confused Pufferfish said:

<> <> best,
<> <>
<> <> Confused Pufferfish
<> <>

 - THE END -

University of Pennsylvania
Scholarly Commons
Department of Physics
10-6-2009

Mach's Holographic Principle
Justin Khoury
Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics,
University of Pennsylvania,
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Maulik Parikh
Columbia University,
Inter-University Centre for Astronomy and Astrophysics

Suggested Citation:
Khoury, J. and Parikh, M. (2009).
"Mach's holographic principle." Physical Review D. 80, 084004.
(c) 2009 The American Physical Society
http://dx.doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevD.80.084004.

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Mach's holographic principle
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0612117

Justin Khoury1,2 and Maulik Parikh3,4

1Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics,
31 Caroline St.
N., Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 2Y5

2Center for Particle Cosmology,
University of Pennsylvania,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19104, USA

3Institute for Strings, Cosmology, and Astroparticle Physics,
Columbia University,
New York, New York 10027, USA

4Inter-University Centre for Astronomy and Astrophysics,
Post Bag 4, Pune 411007, India

(Received 16 February 2007; revised manuscript
received 9 March 2009; published 6 October 2009)

Mach's principle is the proposition that inertial frames
are determined by matter. We put forth and implement a
precise correspondence between matter and geometry that
realizes Mach's principle.  Einstein's equations are not
modified and no selection principle is applied to their
solutions; Mach's principle is realized wholly within
Einstein's general theory of relativity. The key insight
is the observation that, in addition to bulk matter, one
can also add boundary matter.  Given a space-time, and
thus the inertial frames, we can read off both boundary
and bulk stress tensors, thereby relating matter and
geometry. We consider some global conditions that are
necessary for the space-time to be reconstructible, in
principle, from bulk and boundary matter.  Our framework
is similar to that of the black hole membrane paradigm
and, in asymptotically anti-de Sitter space-times, is
consistent with holographic duality.

DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevD.80.084004
PACS numbers: 04.20.Cv, 11.25.Tq, 98.80.Jk

PHYSICAL REVIEW D 80, 084004 (2009)

http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0612117
...

JUSTIN KHOURY AND MAULIK PARIKH
PHYSICAL REVIEW D 80, 084004 (2009)
[1] E. Mach, The Science of Mechanics: A Critical and
Historical Account of Its Development (1893), translated
by T. J. McCormach (Open Court, LaSalle, IL, 1960).
[2] S. Weinberg, Gravitation and Cosmology: Principles and
Applications of the General Theory of Relativity (John
Wiley and Sons, New York, 1972).
[3] A. Einstein, Sitzungsber. Preuss. Akad. Wiss. Berlin
(Math. Phys.) 1914, 1030 (1914).
[4] A. Einstein, Ann. Phys. (Leipzig) 55, 241 (1918).=
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   "As Thomas Huxley said, the universe acts a lot like
a chess game in which the player on the other side
remains invisible to us.  By analyzing the moves, we
try to form an image of the intellect behind them.
Images that have seemed almost believable to me at
various times have included the gods and goddesses
of ancient Greece (if you develop a Classic Poetry
habit, that kind of neurolinguistic programming can
happen...) and also, of course, those extra-terrestrials
who have so much popularity these days.  I have also
considered the player on the other side as more
impersonal, like the Tao, or more bizarre, like Shiva
Dancing, or more abstract, like Philip K. Dick's Vast
Active Living Information System (VALIS.) Mostly, though
I think of the player on the other side as a pookah --
a resident of Ireland, in rabbit form, who may at any
time dump a truckload of the Unknown and Inexplicable
right on your doorstep."
   --Robert Anton Wilson (1932 - 2007)
   http://rawilson.com/

My theory is consistent with what Wilson describes.

   "What is necessary for man is to free himself from
 the entire past of mankind, not only his individual
 past. That is to say, you have to free yourself from
 what every man before you has thought, felt and
 experienced -- then only is it possible for you
 to be yourself. The whole purpose of my talking to
 people is to point out the uniqueness of every
 individual. Culture or civilization or whatever you
 might call it has always tried to fit us into a
 framework. Man is not man at all; I call him a
 'unique animal' -- and man will remain a unique
 animal as long as he's burdened by the culture."
   The "Anti-Krishnamurti":
   -- Uppaluri Gopala Krishnamurti (1918 - 2007)
   http://www.well.com/user/jct/mystiq1.htm
   _____________________

      A D D E N D U M
   _____________________
__________________________________

Dr. Jack Sarfatti, Ph.D.
http://www.stardrive.org
Dr. James F. Woodward, Ph.D.
http://physics.fullerton.edu/~jimw/general/
http://physics.fullerton.edu/component/zoo/item/dr-james-f-woodward
Dr. Stanley Deser, Ph.D.
http://www.brandeis.edu/departments/physics/people/faculty/deser.html
__________________________________
   _____________________

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 05:40:03, eMpTy wrote:

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On Dec 29, 2011 8:01 PM, Gary G Ford <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:

 <snip>
<> ... How many incarnations
<> have you now had since your distant original
<> slugdom?  And how many more will come?!
[...]
<> http://pw1.netcom.com/~mthorn/divinepr.htm
 <snip>

    The most obvious, always forgotten, then
instantly remembered, to be forgotten again,
then remembered (since it is so obvious), is:

    Everything is mind.

Damn! I forgot, again... What?

Oh, never mind. It doesn't matter.

Wait! Yes... okay... mind, right?

EVERYTHING IMAGINABLE is just that,
imagined in the mind.

What is matter, but mind's interpretation
conveniently solidified in a mental construct.

Without mind, is there really anything, like matter?

But wait, is it not so that mind is merely a product
of material brain processes? But again, that pesky
obvious answer: that too is only realized, mentally.

So obvious, so easy to forget, then remembered...

They (you know, other minds) like to say that
if you removed all minds from all universes,
would there really be any such thing as a
universe? Minds (you know, others like you)
like to say (as if they're really saying
something) that the mind of a god is required
as a first cause solidification interpreting
the convenient mental construct which
manifests as matter (or the mental construct
known as matter) out of which emerges all
sorts of little sub-god minds, either transient
or eternal depending on whose mind is doing
the mental configuring. In a previous incarnation
this kind of mental meandering used to piss off my
mind, see, "Abraxas^ Ponders Final Extinction"
 http://home.netcom.com/~mthorn/abraxas0.htm
Now I simply understand, without any real
understanding beyond the obvious experiential
aspect of my own brand of easily forgotten
mind. But, alas, my diseased mind-gland drifts
dangerously into realms lacking English language
cogency, and I wouldn't wish to annoy the esteemed
minds of our temporary tautological physicist
email residents whose mathemagickal workings I
find so fascinating right now. So Gary, thank
you for the eclectic emanation from your mind
with all its curious idiosyncrasies and cultural
artifacts. I will forward you a few dialogues
between Dr. Sarfatti and Dr. Woodward, et al.
that you might've missed, that I think you'll
find interesting -- their minds are working on
forthcoming books, something to look forward to,
I think.

   Happy Nouveau Year!
Say hello to the birds
and other creatures up
there in the great
white north mental
construct. -- eMpTy
           30|DEC|2011
       5:30AM SOL's System
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