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PS The back-from-the-future Wheeler-Feynman type influence is Aristotle's "final cause." The influences from the past particle horizon is Aristotle's efficient cause. This also corresponds to Yakir Aharonov's post and pre selection in weak measurements.

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On Mar 3, 2012, at 5:13 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

David, the Jung-Pauli field is Bohm's implicate order on the hologram 2D horizon surrounding surface whose interior bulk  3D images are Bohm's explicate order - in this picture. The new feature is that the interior bulk images, of which we are examples, have a strong back-from-the-future advanced component in addition to the ordinary past to present properties from our past particle horizon. Of course this is very speculative but it may be essentially the right picture. Too soon to tell as yet.

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On Mar 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, d14947 wrote:

The Jung-Pauli information field seems to surround and suffuse everything on the planet.There is a holographic computer whose display may be seen telepathically and accessed was definitely created by someone and it seems to be earth-centric in that a living model of the world is displayed. The 'computer' takes up the entire field of view and seems to alive. There was no place for sentient beings to sit at it. The visual motifs were comprehensible for humans and there was nothing that it couldn't answer in the approximately 20 minutes I was with it.

The thing doesn't look like a machine at all, but the view seems customized for beings like ourselves. I have not heard of another person reporting this though I've discussed it with Russell and Kit.

I somehow  saw and accessed this while awake on February 12, 2011 in Cambridge (Mass.). The computer can be accessed and questions asked non-verbally, which I did and it tailored the information to fit the question. The information is displayed in multiple ways to be accessed immediately at a glance. It is the living Valis, perhaps built by our own descendants or is being displayed from the future. It is meant to be accessed by many beings at once.

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What is the "primordial community" some sort of intrinsic mental
field, like a cosmic scale Bohm quantum potential perhaps?

Bohm and Hiley rather gave up on quantum potential, but you could consider it as the basis of implicate order, or maybe the cells of some superorganism.  

I conceive of the implicate order as the Seth Lloyd computer from the 10^123 Planck area pixels on the asymptote of the de Sitter future horizon. The explicate interior bulk is essentially some kind of Fourier transform of the processing on the horizon.

I'm trying to take these ideas further at this time. The point about a community is that it can have a more global effect than an individual, which is related to dissemination of discoveries.



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