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Jacques Vallee emphasized the importance of trying to overcome the light barrier for star ship technology with quantum entanglement in the first meeting of the joint DARPA-NASA 100 Year Star Ship workshop in January 2011 in Marin County. MIT physics historian David Kaiser describes how this idea came about and objections to it in his book “How The Hippies Saved Physics” (W.W. Norton, New York, 2011). Mainstream opinion is that the direct use of quantum entanglement as a C3 command, control, and communication channel without a light-speed limited signal “key” is fundamentally impossible because of the linearity of observable operators and the unitarity of quantum state time evolution between strong measurements. Aharonov has introduced new kinds of weak measurements that need both pre and post-selection.  Unitarity of quantum time evolution operator , where the Hamiltonian is Hermitian with real energy eigenvalues, is the crux of the claim of Susskind and ‘t Hooft against Hawking that information is not lost behind the event horizon of an evaporating black hole. Hawking caved in to Susskind, but perhaps he should have held his ground. Cosmological horizons will also evaporate of course, but over an enormous time scale. Observers are outside black hole horizons, but inside cosmological horizons. It is also claimed that energy would not be conserved with non-unitary time evolution. This is debatable. It’s a pyrrhic victory because the observer must wait over many aeons to recover the lost information from the evaporating horizon. Information is lost in any real practical operational measurement sense over durations short compared to the observer’s life span.

 

Unitarity of the time evolution of micro-quantum states implies that total probability is strictly conserved.  However, would mean that new order at lower energy large scales could not emerge. That is the space of possible outcomes is fixed in the unitarity approximation. Therefore, the Sacred Cow of unitarity is shaky ground on which the no-entanglement signaling theorems rest.  John Cramer has also questioned this assumption within orthodox quantum theory. [12] The act of measurement in orthodox quantum theory is non-unitary and may be a loophole overlooked in the accepted no-signaling theorems.  Beyond that is the suggestion that orthodox quantum theory is not the final theory of physical reality, but is an approximation to a more general theory in the same way that Einstein’s 1905 special theory of relativity is an approximation to his 1916 general theory of relativity. Special relativity only works in globally flat Minkowski spacetime with zero curvature, which, in fact does not exist in the real world except approximately locally on a scale small compared to the radii of curvature. General relativity deals with the invariants of momentarily coincident local frame detectors all measuring the same actual test particles. Test particles are not sources of gravitational field. They are acted on, but do not act. That is an approximation, but a good one in practice. In particular, Einstein’s strong equivalence principle deals with the particular transformations between non-rotating local inertial frames (LIFs) on timelike geodesics with zero g-force registered on their accelerometers on the one hand, and possibly rotating local non-inertial frames (LNIFs) whose centers of mass need not be on timelike geodesics. Off-geodesic LNIFs require a non-gravity g-force to push them off their natural geodesic. Indeed, the Levi-Civita connection field in Einstein’s theory describes the non-gravity g-forces on the detector not actual forces on the test particle that is being measured. For example, a rocket engine must fire to hover at fixed distance from the event horizon of a black hole. The crew feels artificial gravity from the electrical reaction force of the metal fuselage on them. Since curvature is a tensor, if it does not vanish in one local frame, it will not vanish in any other momentarily coincident local frame either LNIF or LIF.

Antony Valentini [13] has used Bohm’s “quantum potential” with real particles to model such a general quantum theory with “signal nonlocality” that would allow instantaneous interstellar communications as described in David Kaiser’s book based on this author’s ideas from the 1970’s and later.  Valentini wrote:

“It is argued that immense physical resources - for nonlocal communication, espionage, and exponentially-fast computation - are hidden from us by quantum noise, and that this noise is not fundamental but merely a property of an equilibrium state in which the universe happens to be at the present time. It is suggested that 'non-quantum' or nonequilibrium matter might exist today in the form of relic particles from the early universe. We describe how such matter could be detected and put to practical use. Nonequilibrium matter could be used to send instantaneous signals, to violate the uncertainty principle, to distinguish non-orthogonal quantum states without disturbing them, to eavesdrop on quantum key distribution, and to outpace quantum computation (solving NP-complete problems in polynomial time).”

 Just as Einstein’s general relativity uses test particles that are acted on but do not act as sources of the gravitational field, so too David Bohm [14] showed that orthodox quantum theory’s “no-signaling” theorems also assume that electrons, atoms, molecules et-al are also test particles that are acted on but do not act as sources of their guiding quantum potential that contains the entanglement to other test particles.  Another way to look at Valentini’s model is that when the particle “hidden variables” are no longer test particles, but also act as sources of their own and other test particle’s common entangled quantum potential, that they then form emergent self-organizing feedback-control loops with a breakdown of the no-signal theorems. When can this be expected this to happen? [15] Soft condensed matter physics relies on the same kind of “More is different” [16] spontaneous symmetry breaking emergent order in the ground state of real on-mass-shell particles outside the vacuum that we see in the Higgs-Goldstone macro-quantum Glauber coherent states [17] of off-mass-shell virtual particles inside the vacuum that is so important in both large-scale inflationary cosmology as well as in the standard model of flavor symmetry breaking in the weak force giving small rest masses to leptons and quarks as well as larger rest masses to the W-bosons. Indeed, there is also a kind of color spontaneous symmetry breaking in the quantum chromodynamics of the much larger hadron bound states of real quarks with virtual gluons that Frank Wilzcek [18] calls the “multi-layered multi-colored vacuum superconductor” of virtual gluon and virtual quark-antiquark pair Bose-Einstein condensates. Spontaneous symmetry breaking means that the global dynamical action and its local Euler-Lagrange quantum field equations have the full continuous symmetries, but their lowest energy state does not. Examples include ordinary crystals that spontaneously break the 3D continuous translation group leaving only the discrete groups of 19th Century crystallography. The phonon is the massless Goldstone quantum.  Other examples involving different symmetry groups are ferromagnets, ferroelectrics, liquid crystals, superconductors, superfluid helium and possibly the macro-quantum coherent field in our brain responsible for both sub-conscious and conscious mental activity. This far-from-thermodynamic equilibrium dissipative structure macro-quantum coherent field is acted upon by neuroelectrical and neurochemical signals and also acts back on them in highly nonlinear self-organizing ways. [19] It is here where signal nonlocality is predicted to emerge. Indeed, Landau and Ginzburg developed the theory of these effects. [20] The emergent low energy dynamics is nonlinear in contrast to micro-quantum theory, it is also nonunitary in contrast to micro-quantum theory, and the c-number macro-quantum coherent field is local in ordinary space-time in contrast to the nonlocal entanglement of micro-quantum theory. Coherent states including squeezing are not orthogonal like sharp number Fock micro-quantum states are. This may provide another loophole to the no-entanglement signal theorems if the degree of non-orthogonality at the sender can be modulated it will affect the response of the entangled receiver. In spite of this emergent locality spatially separated coherent states can still, it appears, be entangled in a way largely immune from thermal decoherence. [21] Of course the micro-quantum particles jump into and out of the coherent field in a random way according to the usual orthodox quantum rules. That is, we have random micro-quantum noise coupled to non-random macro-quantum signal. The basic Born probability rules only apply to the noise not to the signal that has a robust “phase rigidity” making it immune to environmental decoherence especially when there are anyonic-braid topological restrictions in 2D “quantum well” nano-tech membrane layers made, for example, from graphene sheets.

Sep 15

ET Saucer warp drive and cloaking.

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"Yes, the fractal trick will be useful for low power warp drive. The ET saucers no doubt have this technology." - Jack Sarfatti on 9-14-2011 regarding wide-band cloaking using fractal meta-materials.

http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=19952

A key theme of our work in the Fundamental Fhysics Group was whether entanglement could be used directly for communication.

I was a graduate student briefly at Brandeis 1960-2 where I had the first glimmerings of Bell's theorem before Bell from reading a Review of Modern Physics paper on the Tau-Theta puzzle. I had also read Bohm's "Quantum Theory" as an undergraduate at Cornell. When I argued with Schweber, Deser and other Brandeis faculty that the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen effect seemed to conflict with relativity implying a faster-than-light influence of some kind, they essentially told me to "Shut up and calculate." This was a major reason for my quitting my National Defense Fellowship and going to work for a CIA affiliated company Tech Ops at Mitre on Route 2. When I went back to Cornell in 1963 I brought Jonathan Glogower with me with Phil Morrison's help. Lenny Susskind, Glogower and I worked together on the time/phase operator problem that I had initiated while back in George Parrent, Jr's Tech/Ops group. Indeed, there is a reference to it in my 1963 Nuovo Cimento paper on correlation functions of black body radiation - work I did at Tech/Ops. I was invited to Ford Philco Aeronutronics in Newport Beach where I stayed for six months with Fred W. Cummings of Jaynes and Cummings. In the interim Susskind and Glogower finished the work I had initiated with them. They did a most of the math in the paper. Lenny later told me that he wanted to put my name on the paper published in the same journal Bell published his paper in, but Peter Carruthers discouraged him from doing so. This was Susskind's first published paper I believe and has been much cited. Lenny also recently put into writing that my name should have been on that paper as a co-author and will corroborate this story in its essentials.

Now to an important announcement. Here is an excerpt from a paper I am writing about the key ideas discussed in Kaiser's book.

There may be a loophole in all the proofs against signal nonlocality. The unitarity and Born probability axioms of quantum theory break down in the presence of Higgs-Goldstone spontaneous symmetry breaking permitting stand-alone entanglement signals for interstellar space communications without light speed retarded time delayed keys to unlock the messages.

Jacques Vallee emphasized the importance of trying to overcome the light barrier for star ship technology with quantum entanglement in the first meeting of the joint DARPA-NASA workshop in January 2011 in Marin County. MIT physics historian David Kaiser describes how this idea came about and objections to it in his book “How The Hippies Saved Physics” (W.W. Norton, New York, 2011). Mainstream opinion is that the direct use of quantum entanglement as a command, control, and communication channel without a light-speed limited signal “key” is fundamentally impossible because of the linearity and unitarity of quantum theory.  John Cramer has questioned this assumption within orthodox quantum theory. [12] The act of measurement in orthodox quantum theory is non-unitary and may be a loophole overlooked in the accepted no-signaling theorems.  Beyond that is the suggestion that orthodox quantum theory is not the final theory of physical reality, but is an approximation to a more general theory in the same way that Einstein’s 1905 special theory of relativity is an approximation to his 1916 general theory of relativity.  

Coherent states including squeezing are not orthogonal like sharp number Fock micro-quantum states are. This may provide another loophole to the no-entanglement signal theorems if the degree of non-orthogonality at the sender can be modulated it will affect the response of the entangled receiver.

Antony Valentini [13] has used Bohm’s “quantum potential” with real particles to model such a general quantum theory with “signal nonlocality” that would allow instantaneous interstellar communications as described in David Kaiser’s book based on this author’s ideas from the 1970’s and later.

Valentini wrote:

“It is argued that immense physical resources - for nonlocal communication, espionage, and exponentially-fast computation - are hidden from us by quantum noise, and that this noise is not fundamental but merely a property of an equilibrium state in which the universe happens to be at the present time. It is suggested that 'non-quantum' or nonequilibrium matter might exist today in the form of relic particles from the early universe. We describe how such matter could be detected and put to practical use. Nonequilibrium matter could be used to send instantaneous signals, to violate the uncertainty principle, to distinguish non-orthogonal quantum states without disturbing them, to eavesdrop on quantum key distribution, and to outpace quantum computation (solving NP-complete problems in polynomial time).”

Just as Einstein’s general relativity uses test particles that are acted on but do not act as sources of the gravitational field, so too David Bohm [14] showed that orthodox quantum theory’s “no-signaling” theorems also assume that electrons, atoms, molecules et-al are also test particles that are acted on but do not act as sources of their guiding quantum potential that contains the entanglement to other test particles.  Another way to look at Valentini’s model is that when the particle “hidden variables” are no longer test particles, but also act as sources of their own and other test particle’s common entangled quantum potential, that they then form emergent self-organizing feedback-control loops with a breakdown of the no-signal theorems. When can we expect this to happen? [15] Soft condensed matter physics relies on the same kind of “More is different” [16] spontaneous symmetry breaking emergent order in the ground state of real on-mass-shell particles outside the vacuum that we see in the Higgs-Goldstone macro-quantum Glauber coherent states [17] of off-mass-shell virtual particles inside the vacuum that is so important in both large-scale inflationary cosmology as well as in the standard model of flavor symmetry breaking in the weak force giving small rest masses to leptons and quarks as well as larger rest masses to the W-bosons. Indeed, there is also a kind of color spontaneous symmetry breaking in the quantum chromodynamics of the much larger hadron bound states of real quarks with virtual gluons that Frank Wilzcek [18] calls the “multi-layered multi-colored vacuum superconductor” of virtual gluon and virtual quark-antiquark pair Bose-Einstein condensates. Spontaneous symmetry breaking means that the global dynamical action and its local Euler-Lagrange quantum field equations have the full continuous symmetries, but their lowest energy state does not. Examples include ordinary crystals that spontaneously break the 3D continuous translation group leaving only the discrete groups of 19th Century crystallography. The phonon is the massless Goldstone quantum.  Other examples involving different symmetry groups are ferromagnets, ferroelectrics, liquid crystals, superconductors, superfluid helium and possibly the macro-quantum coherent field in our brain responsible for both sub-conscious and conscious mental activity. This far-from-thermodynamic equilibrium dissipative structure macro-quantum coherent field is acted upon by neuroelectrical and neurochemical signals and also acts back on them in highly nonlinear self-organizing ways. It is here where we expect signal nonlocality to emerge. Indeed, the theory of these effects was developed by Landau and Ginzburg. [19] The emergent low energy dynamics is nonlinear in contrast to micro-quantum theory, it is also nonunitary in contrast to micro-quantum theory, and the c-number macro-quantum coherent field is local in ordinary space-time in contrast to the nonlocal entanglement of micro-quantum theory. In spite of this emergent locality spatially separated coherent states can still, it appears, be entangled in a way largely immune from thermal decoherence. [20] Of course the micro-quantum particles jump into and out of the coherent field in a random way according to the usual orthodox quantum rules.  That is, we have random micro-quantum noise coupled to non-random macro-quantum signal. The basic Born probability rules only apply to the noise not to the signal that has a robust “phase rigidity” making it immune to environmental decoherence especially when there are anyonic-braid topological restrictions in 2D “quantum well” nano-tech membrane layers made, for example, from graphene sheets.

Unitarity of quantum time evolution operator  , where the Hamiltonian  is Hermitian with real energy eigenvalues, is the crux of the claim of L. Susskind and G. ‘t Hooft against S. Hawking that information is not lost behind the event horizon of an evaporating black hole. Cosmological horizons will also evaporate of course, but over an enormous time scale. We are outside black hole horizons, but inside cosmological horizons. It is also claimed that energy would not be conserved if we allow non-unitary time evolution. This is debatable. It’s a pyrrhic victory because one must wait over many aeons to recover the lost information from the evaporating horizon. Practically speaking information is lost in any real operational measurement sense. Unitarity of the time evolution of micro-quantum states implies that total probability is strictly conserved.  However, would mean that new order at lower energy large scales could not emerge. That is the space of possible outcomes is fixed in the unitarity approximation. Therefore, the Sacred Cow of unitarity is shaky ground on which the no-entanglement signaling theorems rest.

12. J. G. Cramer,  "Faster-than-Light Implications of Quantum Entanglement and Nonlocality." M.G. Millis (Editor), E.W. Davis (Editor). Frontiers of Propulsion Science (Progress in Astronautics and Aeronautics). AIAA (American Institute of Aeronautics & Ast), 2009.

 

13. A. Valentini, “Subquantum Information and Computation”, Proceedings of the Second Winter Institute on Foundations of Quantum Theory and Quantum Optics: Quantum Information Processing, ed. R. Ghosh (Indian Academy of Science, Bangalore, 2002).

 

14. D. Bohm, B. Hiley, The Undivided Universe (book) Routledge, Oxford & New York, 1993

 

15. J. Sarfatti, “Retrocausality and Signal Nonlocality in Consciousness and Cosmology”, Journal of Cosmology, Vol 14, April 2011.

 

16. Anderson, P.W. (1972). "More is Different". Science 177 (4047): 393–396.

 

17. R.J. Glauber, Coherent and incoherent states of radiation field, Phys. Rev. 131 (1963) 2766-2788.

 

18. F. Wilzcek, The Lightness of Being: Mass, Ether, and the Unification of Forces. Basic Books. 2008.

 

19. V.L. Ginzburg and L.D. Landau, Zh. Eksp. Teor. Fiz. 20, 1064 (1950) ... Original paper of Ginzburg and Landau.

 

A.A. Abrikosov, Zh. Eksp. Teor. Fiz. 32, 1442 (1957) (English translation: Sov. Phys. JETP 5 1174 (1957)].) ... Abrikosov's original paper on vortex structure of Type II superconductors derived as a solution of G–L equations for κ > 1/2

 

L.P. Gor'kov, Sov. Phys. JETP 36, 1364 (1959)

 

A.A. Abrikosov's 2003 Nobel lecture, V.L. Ginzburg's 2003 Nobel Lecture

 

Ginsburg VL (July 2004). "On superconductivity and superfluidity (what I have and have not managed to do), as well as on the 'physical minimum' at the beginning of the 21st century". Chemphyschem. 5 (7): 930–945.

 

20. B.C. Sanders, “Entangled Coherent States”, Phys. Rev. A 45, 6811–6815 (1992)

 

J. Joo, W J. Munro, T. P. Spiller, Quantum metrology with entangled coherent states, Phys. Rev. Lett. 107, 083601 (2011)

Sep 07
See pdf I just uploaded 9-7-2011 on Library Resources Advanced Propulsion
On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:43 AM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Paul Zielinski wrote:

In 1905 SR, it is the coordinate speed that is an absolute invariant under the Einstein-Lorentz transformations and this is at the core of Einstein's 1905 version of relativity.

I replied:

(ct)^2 - L^2 = (ct')^2 - L'^2  S and S' both GLOBAL inertial frames

L^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2

PZ: In modern GR, the coordinate speed is not invariant under general transformations; so it is deprecated as "coordinate speed" in favor of invariant measures, in the spirit of general covariance.

I replied:

(cdt)^2 - dx^2 - dy^2 - dz^2 = guv(LNIF)dx^udx^v = gu'v'dx^u'dx^v'

first = is the tetrad map

2nd = is a GCT

You really can't define the speed of light very well when there is gravimagnetism g0i = Ai =/= 0

Define dL^2 = gijdx^idx^j

i,j = 1,2,3

for a light ray ds^2 = 0

dT = g00^1/2dt

c^2dT^2 - dL^2 + cAidtdx^i = 0

(dL/dT)^2 = c^2 + cAidx^i/dT

c(LNIF) = [c(LIF)^2 + cAi(dt/dT)dx^i/dT]^1/2

v^I = dx^i/dT

dt/dT = 1/g00^1/2

c(LNIF) = c(LIF)[1 + Aiv^i'/c(LIF)g00^1/2]^1/2

Only when Ai = 0   

c(LNIF) = c(LIF)  and in this case speed of light in a non-dispersive vacuum is an absolute invariant.


PZ: Of course in Minkowski's version of SR, we already have the Lorentz-invariant interval s which gives us the time actually read by moving clocks. And of course this goes over to the generally covariant infinitesimal interval ds^2 = g_uv dx^udx^v in GR. I think this illustrates very clearly how GR supersedes 1905 SR, and how the definition of "light speed" is not the same in both  theories. I think the most one can say is that  in LIFs, the locally observed empirical predictions of the two theories agree, since  the laws of SR "work" in such local frames.


On 9/4/2011 10:05 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

On Sep 4, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Paul Zielinski wrote:

Jim and Jack,

I think it's high time we got this straightened out. I can;t believe this is still in dispute.

Here's Baez:


"The problem here comes from the fact that speed is a coordinate-dependent quantity, and is therefore somewhat ambiguous.  To determine speed (distance moved/time taken) you must first choose some standards of distance and time, and different choices can give different answers."

"This is already true in special relativity: if you measure the speed of light in an accelerating reference frame, the answer will, in general, differ from c."

See pdf I uploaded to Library Resources Cosmology today 9-6-2011


"To summarize, in this article we have used the formalism of electrodynamics
in curved spacetime to generalized Sciama’s law of inertial induction to a curved
spacetime represented by the Friedmann models, and obtained covariant expressions
for the inertial force on a accelerating particle in these models. This extends previous
work by Berry and later by Signore on the subject of inertia in Friedmann universes.
As in Berry’s case we have showed that the total inertial force F = −ma on an
accelerating particle cannot be explained only in terms of inertial induction from
the total matter and radiation in the current universe. We have also seen from
(38) that the inertial force is redshift dependent and increases for earlier times
until it reaches the asymptotic value of −(1/3)ma in the matter dominated case or
−(1/2)ma in the radiation dominated case."

now they only do the past particle horizon and neglect the future event horizon.



It's curious that the past-particle horizon gives 0.23 same as Omega dark matter




F = [Omega(past particle horizon) + Omega(future event horizon) + Omega(real particles)]ma

 = [.23 + .73 + .04]ma   present epoch

in general this is time independent because

http://www-conf.slac.stanford.edu/ssi/2005/lec_notes/kolb1/kolb1new_Page_21_jpg.htm
Sep 06

Sciama's Error?

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See pdf just uploaded to Cosmology in Library Resources on 9-5-2011
Sep 05
PS to answer Murad's or is it Z's question?

In classical GR the vacuum is assumed to be non-dispersive in the coupling 8piG/c^4 of applied stress-energy current density's ability to manipulate the local geometrodynamical field Ruvwl and its global patterns of geodesic deviation.

If one makes the vacuum's virtual electron-positron pairs disperse light with strong magnetic fields etc in a small region - then it's the same problem as in my DARPA-NASA Star Ship "Low Power Warp Drive" paper for real meta-materials.

It's clear from Richard Tolman's 1934 classic "Relativity, Thermodynamics, & Cosmology" that

1) the macroscopic theory of EM fields is not completely derived from the microscopic theory.

2) the way to proceed is to renormalize all the couplings into zero rank tensor (scalar invariant) form - as I do in my paper - and to keep the local dynamical Euler-Lagrange field equations of all the matter fields generally covariant as well as locally Lorentz invariant - which I do.

3) of course we now know as Tolman did not in 1934 about P.W. Anderson's More is Different ---> Higgs-Goldstone spontaneous breakdown of continuous dynamical symmetries - modifying Noether's theorem etc. in which the ground states need not manifest all the symmetries of the Euler-Lagrange field equations from the Action Principle.

For example, we have an absolute cosmic frame of rest with global time (isotropy of CMB with a temperature measure of time) not in violation of GR but as a valid solution of the GR Euler-Lagrange field equations.






Sep 05

Star Ship Design Criteria 9-5-2011 I

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Begin forwarded message:


On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Paul Murad wrote:

Paul:
 
Okay.
 
My rationale is of course could there be a possibility of developing an advanced propulsion device?


Jack Sarfatti wrote: Only if the idea in my "Low Power Warp Drive" paper I am giving at Orlando Hilton Sept 30-Oct 2 DARPA-NASA Starship meeting  workshop turns out to be confirmed by careful experiments looking for the effect. Remember we need NEAR ELF FIELDS not propagating radiation for this to work. If it does not work then we are stuck here and will never reach the stars in my opinion. It's our last hope.
 
The other point is whether there is any meaning between determining resonances with light, gravity and both electromagnetic fields...
Paul...

Jack: Your question is too vague for my mind.

Definitely we want a huge resonance in the near EM field electrical susceptibility response function for low frequencies f and wave numbers k that fit between the charged plates of the double hull of the starship. Remember f =/= ck for near fields (no pun intended ;-)) i.e. coherent states of VIRTUAL PHOTONS with 3 states of polarization not 2.

From: Paul Zielinski <iksnileiz@gmail.com>
To: Paul Murad <ufoguypaul@yahoo.com>

Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: speed of light in accelerating frames in Minkowski spacetime

Yes of course if there is vacuum dispersion then this would also vary the value of c, depending on the frequencies of the light waves.

I didn't mean to disagree with that. I'm just saying that the frame invariance of each frequency-related light speed is another question.


On 9/5/2011 10:22 AM, Paul Murad wrote:
Paul:

Sorry but I disagree.
 
If we have different speed of light depending on specific frequencies, there has to be unusual effects.  This should also influence gravitation...
 
For example, what if there was a resonance between gravity and the speed of light for a given frequency?  Can we even discuss effects?

I don't think so...

Paul...

From: Paul Zielinski <iksnileiz@gmail.com>
To: Paul Murad <ufoguypaul@yahoo.com>

Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: speed of light in accelerating frames in Minkowski spacetime

There is a relativistic Doppler effect but I don't think that is relevant to the question of the general frame invariance of c.

An observer in an accelerating frame does see a "gravitational" redshift at different points in the pseudo-gravity field, according
to the Einstein EP. So the light speed is not observed to be constant in such frames.

The question I'm concerned with is different: is the light speed generally frame invariant at each point?


On 9/5/2011 5:37 AM, Paul Murad wrote:
Jack:
 
When you say this, what particular frequency are you considering?
 
Is it feasible to have a different expression at a different frequency?
 
I would assume as such....
Paul...

From: JACK SARFATTI <sarfatti@pacbell.net>
To: Paul Zielinski <iksnileiz@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 1:33 AM
Subject: speed of light in accelerating frames in Minkowski spacetime


On Sep 4, 2011, at 10:06 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

In an accelerating frame for at << c along x axis in Minkowski spacetime - no curvature

ds^2 = gtt(cdt)^2 + gtx(cdt)dx + gxxdx^2 + gyydy^2 + gzzdz^2

for a light ray

ds^2 = 0

0 = c^2dT^2 - dL^2 + gtx(cdt)dx

so if we define speed of light as dL/dT, it will change in a gravimagnetic field.

It does not change in the SSS metric.

Ax = gtx

0 = c^2 - (dL/dT)^2 + cAx(dt/dT)(dx/dT)

(dL/dT)^2 = c^2(1 + Ax(dt/dT)vx/c)

dL/dT = c[1 + Ax(dt/dT)vx/c]^1/2





Sep 04

Weird Desk 9-3-2011

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Koyaanisqatsi Fahrvergnugen wrote:

<>  Zeena (a quasi Virgil to Alec's Dante) describes
<>  'her people' as interdimensional time travelers
<>  who have been involved with the evolution of
<>  humans for millions of years contemporaneously
<>  in an ongoing conflict relationship with a darker
<>  more de-evolutionary force hell bent on retarding
<>  human growth/enlightenment for arcane purposes.
<>  Zeena expresses surprise and bafflement to Alec
<>  over selective irrational human behaviors like
<>  polluting automobiles and deforestation which
<>  considering the advanced cognition and historical
<>  awareness 'Zeena's people' have of humanity should
<>  be neither baffling or surprising in any way.
<>  Alec writes of the enormous city on the planet
<>  'Haven' his abductor's took him to: "The first most
<>  striking thing about the city was it's neatness
<>  and order; the second, it's immensity. Even from
<>  well up I could not make out the boundaries.
<>  There may well be bigger cities on Earth, but
<>  where I come from this place would be rated big,
<>  VERY big." So apparently the hyper 'green'
<>  environmentally concerned 'Zeena and her people'
<>  are not so naive after all about urban development.
<>
<>  I almost succumbed to buying this book on Linda
<>  Moulton Howe's recommendation alone, but like so
<>  many abduction stories, this one sounds like a
<>  novelist's dream catharsis. By the way, where are
<>  the bathrooms in the Biological Extraterrestrial
<>  Entity's infrastructure, and why don't abductees
<>  ever describe basic bodily functions that are so
<>  ubiquitous in the mundane reality of waking state
<>  consciousness? Could it be that dream states
<>  do not require such facilities? Should the visions
<>  of religious extremists be give equal time to the
<>  inner vision quest of Alec 'Dante' Newald? -=END=-
<>   ________________________________________________
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approximately 2/3rd radius along one arm of a spiral
galaxy. A cosmological variation on the double-slit
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with infinitesimal variations in each simulation to
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    "Could sporadic, sentient unhappiness and
suffering throughout the successful pathway be
entirely ruled out?"  http://tinyurl.com/ba5s2
  http://tinyurl.com/an3so

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 http://tinyurl.com/History-1977

To No0ne In Particular...

o0O0o

 On, or around, Sept, 9th 2001, it was written:

 "...Continuity of Consciousness, by definition,
 presupposes that the perceptive core tracks
 continuously across all parallel realities...
 One femtosecond is to a second as one second is
 to 32.6 million years! The 'Parallel Universe'
 theory (Many-Worlds Theory) is a defunct
 bastardization of an ill-perceived anthropocentric
 misunderstanding of the double-slit experiment,
 [Collapse of a Quantum Wave Function into a
 Measurable Particle w/ History]:
 In the 'Many Worlds' theory of quantum physics,
 popularized by David Deutsch and others,
 ( http://www.qubit.org/people/david/ ), our conscious
 selves inhabit an infinite realm of parallel
 universes: a 'multiverse.' Now, over the many years
 wherein we've all made countless decisions both
 conscious and automatic, and the countless times
 we've all pondered ending our own miserable
 myriad existences, what if we actually did?
 Would it, therefore, seem like a cruel fate for
 consciousness to have no final escape from
 awareness, perception, and embeddedness...?
 And what if it's true?! Whooooooooooshhh!!!!
 Is everyone the same biospheric personage? Are
 we dispersed across an undifferentiated
 light-cone of ultra-dimensional wavelike
 potentiality in nature, and only specified
 in particularity as a 3D lifeform?
 ( http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/ManyWorlds.html )
 Who-are-we to suffer such an endless fate?
 And what does it mean?!! What if there is a seamless
 continuity to sentience, so that no matter how
 many times you actually 'die,' your multiversal
 "self" continues uninterrupted?"
 [circa: Sept 9, 2001]  http://tinyurl.com/History1977

 See also:  http://www.eelstheband.com/biography/index.php
 http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=hugh-everett-biography
 __________________________________________________

o0O0o

READING In-between-the-lines therein,
above, a bit of a crisis, which made
the subsequent events - days later -
seem like a parallel life had been
 embodied as the previous one seemed
  to have possibly evaporated?
Cryptic? Yes, probably... but, point
 being, the MindGland was not so
rigorous in delineating factual data
in a subsequently accurate manner.
 Which is my convoluted, elaborate
 excuse for presuming such erroneous
trans-temporal back-engineered loopy
mentations of multidimensionality!

  Glad to have caught up with your
enormously talented real self? again!

Warmest Regards,

<>
<> "This is the awe-inspiring universe of magic:
<> There are no atoms, only waves and motions
<> all around. Here, you discard all belief in
<> barriers to understanding. You put aside
<> understanding itself. This universe cannot
<> be seen, cannot be heard, cannot be detected
<> in any way by fixed perceptions.
<> It is the ultimate void where no preordained
<> screens occur upon which forms may be projected.
<> You have only one awareness here - the screen
<> of the magi: Imagination!
<> Here, you learn what it is to be human.
<> You are a creator of order, of beautiful
<> shapes and systems, an organizer of chaos."
<> --Frank Herbert  - Heretics of Dune -
    http://tinyurl.com/History1977
[...]   http://tinyurl.com/eyedead

QUESTION

IF:
  In terms of spatial ratios, a hypothetical
'super string' is to an atom as a tree is to
the visible universe... AND: In terms of
temporal ratios, a femtosecond is to a
second as a second is to 32.6 million years...
THEN: ...?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A Physicist Explains Why Parallel Universes
May Exist:  [...]   "But there's a more
confounding aspect of quantum theory that
receives less attention.
  After decades of closely studying quantum
mechanics, and after having accumulated a
wealth of data confirming its probabilistic
predictions, no one has been able to explain
why only one of the many possible outcomes
in any given situation actually happens.
  When we do experiments, when we examine
the world, we all agree that we encounter
a single definite reality. Yet, more than
a century after the quantum revolution
began, there is no consensus among the
world's physicists as to how this basic
fact is compatible with the theory's
mathematical expression." [...]

Excerpted from 'The Hidden Reality'
 by Brian Greene
  Copyright 2011 by Brian Greene.
   http://www.iscap.columbia.edu

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unsticking the "brane"

Professor Tom Weiler and graduate fellow Chui Man Ho
hypothesize using the Large Hadron Collider as a TIME TUNNEL
http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2011/03/hadron-collider-time-machine/

LHC http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/

Several [months] ago, had a dream of two silhouettes
'Snow Boarding' thru a tunnel of concentric rings,
 ala the old 60's TV show: 'THE TIME TUNNEL' see pic:
  http://www.oscuro.org/mjr/htms/time_tunnel/pics2/17.jpg
[Wed, 9 Mar 2011]

47 years ago, Sir Freddy wrote:

"It has often been said that, if the human species
fails to make a go of it here on Earth, some
other species will take over the running. In the
sense of developing high intelligence this is not
correct. We have, or soon will have, exhausted
the necessary physical prerequisites so far as this
planet is concerned. With coal gone, oil gone,
high-grade metallic ores gone, no species however
competent can make the long climb from primitive
conditions to high-level technology. This is a
one-shot affair. If we fail, this planetary system
fails so far as intelligence is concerned. The same
will be true of other planetary systems. On each
of them there will be one chance, and one chance
only."    -- Sir Fred Hoyle,
             "Of Men and Galaxies," 1964

       ***********************

5 years ago, Daniel Pinchbeck wrote:

[...] "The Catholic mystic Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
foresaw the development of a 'new, integrated mind' of
global humanity, calling it the 'noosphere,' from the
Greek word nous, meaning mind. Noting that our planet
consists of various layers -- a mineral lithosphere,
hydrosphere, biosphere, and atmosphere consisting of
troposphere, stratosphere, and ionosphere -- Chardin
theorized the possible existence of a mental envelope,
a layer of thought, encompassing the Earth.
The 'hominization' of the Earth had concluded the
phase of physical evolution, during which species
multiplied and developed new powers, leading to an
entropic breakdown of the biosphere. This process,
Chardin realized, requiring the tapping of the stored
energy and amassed mineral resources of the planet,
could happen only once." [...] Pg. 60; Part One:
               A Universe In Ruins; Chapter Five |
               2012 - The Return of Quetzalcoatl
               by Daniel Pinchbeck (c) 2006

       ***********************

10 years ago, Whitley Strieber wrote:

[...] Q: But our world is dying and falling into
        chaos? How can we be governed poorly from
        such a high level?

A: Man is a child. Children govern children with
   the wisdom of children.

Q: There are aliens here?

A: Using you and guiding you.

Q: We're being exploited?

A: You are, but also helped. You are being guided
   to your place as guides of another world.

Q: What will we do for this other world?

A: You will draw it toward ecstasy just as your
   mentors draw you toward ecstasy. Right now,
   there are brilliant creatures there looking
   at the sky and devouring the flesh of their
   own children, just as you did. Unless you
   help them, they will not make the evolutionary
   leap in time, and will go extinct.

Q: Whose responsibility would that be?

A: All are responsible for all.

Q: How many worlds are there like ours, like theirs?

A: The planets that can sustain complex elemental
   bodies are not many. However, the elements of
   which they are made occur in various patterns,
   and the form of evolution depends upon the
   chemical makeup of the planet upon which it
   occurs. So there are worlds where creatures
   look very much like us. there are worlds where
   they are quite different.

[...] [Pgs 78-79 - THE KEY - by Whitley Strieber]

<>   [...]  "Go to Calcutta or Lagos or Bogata
<>  and give yourself to the first street
<>  urchin you meet as his helper and
<>  lifelong servant. Do it without question
<>  or hesitation. You say that you want to
<>  worship God? Kneel to this little one
<>  and you kneel to God." [...] [Pgs 135-136;
<>  The Conversation; THE KEY -
<>    A True Encounter by Whitley Strieber;
<>     ISBN 978-1-58542-869-4; Copyright (c)2001, 2011
<>      by Walker & Collier, Inc.] UnknownCountry.com
<>        http://www.motkbook.com/
<>         http://tinyurl.com/GAWD-IN-RELIEF

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     "If You Don't Like the News,
 Go Out and Make Some of Your Own."
                  -- Scoop Nisker

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