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From: JACK SARFATTI Date: June 3, 2011 1:08:50 PM PDT
To: nick herbert Subject: Re: James Randi and Joy Christian (Dr. Quantum)
The problem with Joy's paper is that it is not at all clear how his abstract math model applies to quantum theory as commonly understood. At least it's not clear to me what his motivation-physical picture is. Sascha's point that if Joy is correct then a classical computer can simulate quantum processes is a good one and it contradicts Roger Penrose's and Richard Feynman's positions. I don't think Joy is correct of course that local realism is consistent with orthodox quantum theory.
On Jun 3, 2011, at 12:56 PM, nick herbert wrote:
Sascha Vongehr--a German.
Great sense of humor and very smart.
I mistakenly thought this challenge was from Randi.
But it's Sascha's way of telling Joy Christian
to "put up or shut up."
On Jun 3, 2011, at 12:35 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:
Who is the main blogger? He is very funny and clever.
On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:51 AM, nick herbert wrote:
This is hilarious, Jack. Thanks for the Randi link.
Randi is challenging anyone who believes in (Joy) Christian's local model of reality
to write A LOCAL COMPUTER PROGRAM that simulates the EPR result at three angles (0, 30. 60).
Has Randi been reading Quantum Reality in which Nick Herbert
(who boiled Bell's original proof down to four lines) shows such a computer is impossible?
Nick's definitely on Randi's side on this one.
Nick Herbert
http://quantumtantra.blogspot.com
On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:12 AM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:
I just received this bizarre link
http://www.science20.com/alpha_meme/quantum_crackpot_randi_challenge_help_perimeter_physicist_joy_christian_collect_nobel_prize-79614