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Apr 01

## I predict a second high energy Hawking signal from black holes

Posted by: JackSarfatti |
Tagged in: Stephen Hawking, Dark Energy, black holes
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I predict a new high energy signal from the event horizons of black holes in addition to the low energy signal predicted by Stephen Hawking.
• Jack Sarfatti Thorizon ~ hc/rskB

R. Buosso Adventures in de Sitter Space

The proper acceleration of virtual particles stuck in the horizon of Planck length thickness Lp and area-entropy A is

g ~ gtt^-1/2dgtt/dr

However, the retarded radiation gravity redshift factor from a past black hole is calculated from

Gravitational redshift any stationary spacetime (e.g. the Schwarzschild geometry)
(for the Schwarzschild geometry,

The receiver is always at r ---> infinity, therefore, gtt(receiver) = 1

Hence,

fobsv/femit = (1 + z)^-1 ---> gtt(source)^1/2 = (1 - 2GM/c^2rsource)^1/2

Therefore, the gtt^1/2 factors cancel in numerator and denominator and the resulting Hawking-Unruh-Bekenstein (HRB) temperature (peak frequency) of the blackbody signal is simply proportional to the Newtonian event horizon surface gravity acceleration c^2/rs (the IR

rs ~ GM/c^2

Computing this in more detail, we must use for the virtual particle radiators stuck to the gtt = 0 horizon source

rsource ~ rs + Lp

Lp/rs << 1

gtt^1/2 ~ [1 -rs/(rs + Lp)]^1/2 ~ [1 - 1/(1 + Lp/rs)]^1/2

~ (Lp/rs)^1/2 << 1 = gravity red shift factor

Now, what Hawking et-al predict are the LOW ENERGY IR surface eigen-modes from ripples in the event horizon area.

There, should also be HIGH ENERGY UV radial eigen-modes of fundamental frequency c/Lp from the horizon.

These also get redshifted down to our detectors to peak signal frequency c/(Lprs)^1/2

i.e. wavelength = geometric mean of Planck scale with horizon scale.

When we apply this to back from the future advanced radiation from our future de Sitter horizon, we get exactly the observed dark energy density hc/Lp^2A

However, let's look at retarded radiation from black holes in our past light cone.

a solar mass black hole is ~ 3km ~ 10^5 cm

Lprs ~ 10^-33x10^5 ~ 10^-28 cm^2

The geometric mean wavelength is ~ 10^-14 cm

i.e. signal frequency ~ 10^24 Hz

What about a super-massive black hole?
for 10^10 solar masses

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermassive_black_hole

10^-33 x 10^15 ~ 10^-18 cm^2

i.e. wavelength ~ 10^-9 cm

signal frequency ~ 10^19 Hz GAMMA RAY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray

However, this radiation should not be usually in burst form, but should be a steady signal.

For the universe as a whole, i.e. our future cosmic event horizon in the causal diamond

Lprs ~ 10^-33 x 10^29 ~ 10^-4 cm^2

i.e. advanced Wheeler-Feynman dark energy peak signal frequency ~ 10^14 Hz.

visible light is 10^15 Hz
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Dec 30

## I think Hawking is mistaken. God is necessary and explained by post-modern physics

Posted by: JackSarfatti |
Tagged in: Stephen Hawking, Seth Lloyd, Rupert Sheldrake, hologram universe, God, David Bohm, Antony Valentini

On Dec 29, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Paul Murad <ufoguypaul@yahoo.com> wrote:

This is a very pessimistic perspective.

Man by itself is incapable of developing morality and ethics except with God. You mention
death, well if there is a hell, the believe that they exist without god or absence that we can
assume means love for that matter may indeed make hell a very empty disparate place.

The crutch that exists may not be fully a religious point but rather a historical view that is part
of mankind's culture. These things happened, are real and they occurred. Regarding your view about
different religious causing problems, I would have to agree but I do not see any contradiction
in believing in God and the possibility of reincarnation...

To mention Jung-Pauli is child-play... Scientists are only rarely right and on metaphysical subjects,
we do not have the physical evidence to judge truth or falsehood with a clearly defined scientific
investigation.

Paul
Paul M,
1) Rupert Sheldrake's morphogenetic field data is direct evidence for the Jung-Pauli information field.

2) The Central Intelligence Agency Stanford Research Institute Remote Viewing data is evidence for the Jung-Pauli information field.

3) Reincarnation data is evidence for the Jung-Pauli information field.

on all of the above see in particular Russell Targ's several new books as well as Hal Puthoff's on-line report.

4) There is a solid theoretical physics basis for it

a) David Bohm's Implicate Order = world hologram screen software on both our past and future cosmic horizons - the Alpha Point past particle horizon and the Omega Point future event horizon shown in my modification of Tamara Davis's PhD fig 1.1c

For details see http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~mdt26/pilot_waves.html (note also Lecture 8)

The work of MIT physicist Seth Lloyd shows that these two cosmological horizons are computers.

I think they are conscious computers i.e. Hawking's Mind of God - literally

e.g.
Subquantum Information and Computation
Antony Valentini
(Submitted on 11 Mar 2002 (v1), last revised 12 Apr 2002 (this version, v2))
It is argued that immense physical resources - for nonlocal communication, espionage, and exponentially-fast computation - are hidden from us by quantum noise, and that this noise is not fundamental but merely a property of an equilibrium state in which the universe happens to be at the present time. It is suggested that 'non-quantum' or nonequilibrium matter might exist today in the form of relic particles from the early universe. We describe how such matter could be detected and put to practical use. Nonequilibrium matter could be used to send instantaneous signals, to violate the uncertainty principle, to distinguish non-orthogonal quantum states without disturbing them, to eavesdrop on quantum key distribution, and to outpace quantum computation (solving NP-complete problems in polynomial time).
Comments:    10 pages, Latex, no figures. To appear in 'Proceedings of the Second Winter Institute on Foundations of Quantum Theory and Quantum Optics: Quantum Information Processing', ed. R. Ghosh (Indian Academy of Science, Bangalore, 2002). Second version: shortened at editor's request; extra material on outpacing quantum computation (solving NP-complete problems in polynomial time)
Subjects:    Quantum Physics (quant-ph)
Journal reference:    Pramana - J. Phys. 59 (2002) 269-277
DOI:    10.1007/s12043-002-0117-1
Report number:    Imperial/TP/1-02/15
Cite as:    arXiv:quant-ph/0203049
(or arXiv:quant-ph/0203049v2 for this version)

Also see the 46 minute raw video of me and Dan Smith discussing this. I look like a frumpy shlepper in it, but the content is good.

Oct 10

## My London Talks with Clive Prince and Lynn Picknett on the Hermetic Principle in Physics Today

Posted by: JackSarfatti |
Tagged in: Stephen Hawking, Lynn Picknett, Clive Prince

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Picknett
How the Hippies Saved Physics by David Kaiser
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Do we live in a conscious intelligent universe that is a destiny/history two state-vector hologram simulation?

The evidence for that is mounting.

What is the evidence?

1) Folklore - lot's of it. However, not "scientific". See Jacques Vallee, Tielhard de Chardin "Omega Point" - Hawking's "Mind of God"

In his early work, Hawking spoke of God in a metaphorical sense, such as in A Brief History of Time: "If we discover a complete theory, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason – for then we should know the mind of God."[54] In the same book he suggested the existence of God was unnecessary to explain the origin of the universe.[55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking#Religious_and_philosophical_views

[PDF] Vallee and Davis Physics of High Strangeness ... - Jacques Vallee
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2) Roger Penrose's discussion of pre-sponse in Emperor's New Mind

3) Replications by Dean Radin, Dick Bierman, Daryl Bem.

Feeling The Future: Is Precognition Possible? | Wired Science ...
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24 Feb 2011 – DARYL J. BEM. Professor ... Feeling the Future: Experimental evidence for anomalous retroactive influences on cognition and affect. Journal of ...
4) CIA funding and vetting of the SRI remote viewing experiments including precognition.

Remote viewing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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In 1972, Puthoff tested remote viewer Ingo Swann at SRI, and the experiment led to a visit from two employees of the CIA's Directorate of Science and ...
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5) Discovery of anti-gravitating dark energy accelerating the expansion of 3D space.

What are the relevant theoretical trends?

1) Wheeler-Feynman use of advanced EM potentials and total future absorber boundary condition to explain radiation reaction and the apparent lack of advanced causes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler–Feynman_absorber_theory hidden in a classical analog of Abner Shimony's no entanglement signal "passion at a distance".

Wheeler's observer-participator universe as a self-excited circuit.

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Wheeler's delayed choice experiment is a thought experiment in quantum physics proposed by John Archibald Wheeler in 1978. The results Wheeler projected ...
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ACTION AND PASSION AT A DISTANCE An Essay in Honor of ...
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2) Hoyle-Narlikar extension of Wheeler-Feynman classical EM to quantum theory and cosmology.

"advanced" = "destiny" = back from the future to present

"retarded" = "history" = forward from past to present

3) Yakir Aharonov's 1964 weak measurement paper with colleagues.

<A> weak ~ <destiny|A|history>/<destiny|history>

not limited to eigenvalues

When |destiny> ---> |history> we have the strong von-Neumann measurement expectation limited to the eigenvalues - including "time translation machine"

http://www.tau.ac.il/~vaidman/lvhp/m109.pdf

Back From the Future | Subatomic Particles | DISCOVER Magazine
discovermagazine.com/2010/apr/01-back-from-the-future
26 Aug 2010 – Does that mean the universe has a destiny—and the laws of physics pull us ... Visit Discover Magazine to read this article and other exclusive science and... named Yakir Aharonov visited the neighboring Boston University.

Measurement in quantum mechanics - Wikipedia, the free ...
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The von Neumann measurement scheme, the ancestor of quantum decoherencetheory, describes measurements by taking into account the measuring ...
Measurement from a practical ... - Wavefunction collapse
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Jump to As a measure of entanglement‎: ... used to measure its degree of entanglement with the other ... quantum information theory and thermodynamics.
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Jump to Measurements, the quantum formalism, and observer independence‎: De Broglie–Bohm theory gives the same results as quantum ...
4) John Cramer's transaction variation on Wheeler-Feynman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_interpretation

Going for a blast into the real past - seattlepi.com
www.seattlepi.com/.../Going-for-a-blast-into-the-real-past-121...
14 Nov 2006 – Cramer, an accomplished experimental physicist who also writes science fiction, knows this sounds more ... Going for a blast into the real past ...
5) My "direct back-reaction of matter on its pilot wave" theory described by Michael Towler in his Cambridge Bohm Lectures

http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~mdt26/PWT/lectures/bohm8.pdf

followed by

Antony Valentini's proposal to extend quantum theory precisely along the lines first suggested by Brian Josephson (w Pallikari) and myself independently

Subquantum Information and Computation
Antony Valentini
(Submitted on 11 Mar 2002 (v1), last revised 12 Apr 2002 (this version, v2))
It is argued that immense physical resources - for nonlocal communication, espionage, and exponentially-fast computation - are hidden from us by quantum noise, and that this noise is not fundamental but merely a property of an equilibrium state in which the universe happens to be at the present time. It is suggested that 'non-quantum' or nonequilibrium matter might exist today in the form of relic particles from the early universe. We describe how such matter could be detected and put to practical use. Nonequilibrium matter could be used to send instantaneous signals, to violate the uncertainty principle, to distinguish non-orthogonal quantum states without disturbing them, to eavesdrop on quantum key distribution, and to outpace quantum computation (solving NP-complete problems in polynomial time).
Comments:    10 pages, Latex, no figures. To appear in 'Proceedings of the Second Winter Institute on Foundations of Quantum Theory and Quantum Optics: Quantum Information Processing', ed. R. Ghosh (Indian Academy of Science, Bangalore, 2002). Second version: shortened at editor's request; extra material on outpacing quantum computation (solving NP-complete problems in polynomial time)
Subjects:    Quantum Physics (quant-ph)
Journal reference:    Pramana - J. Phys. 59 (2002) 269-277
DOI:    10.1007/s12043-002-0117-1
Report number:    Imperial/TP/1-02/15
Cite as:    arXiv:quant-ph/0203049
(or arXiv:quant-ph/0203049v2 for this version)

7) Lenny Susskind et-al World as Hologram

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The World as a Hologram
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8) MIT Seth Lloyd - Einstein horizons where g00 = 0 are pixelated quantum computers.

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9) Kip Thorne et-al traversable wormholes

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& Novikov self-consistency

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& David Deutsch - closed timelike curves

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Aug 06

## Physics, Cosmology, Theology & Stephen Hawking's "Grand Design"

Posted by: JackSarfatti |
Tagged in: Stephen Hawking, God
• Jack Sarfatti On Aug 6, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Dan Smith <danthroopsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

(cont......)
What then........?
Then we are homeward bound, our errand into the 'wilderness' having been completed.
Only if you think I.J. Good's VALIS GOD(D) the supercomputer at the END TIME

is not malicious and gives a \$hit about you.

That GOD(D) is not malicious may be Einstein's REALLY greatest blunder. ;-)

Some of us are surely not ready, just yet, to head back home, to Eternity. All ye, all ye, in-free....?
Hey, that's fine with me! We have all the time in the world. Just as long as we want to be down on the farm is fine, but once we've seen Paris/eternity, we me may start feeling a bit homesick.
There is a crucial consideration when it comes to the prolongation of Creation.......
Do keep in mind that, from the PoV of God, Creation is eternal. Only from the perspective of us mortals does it appear that Creation may end. Going home means that we will be returning to the PoV of God, wherein Creation is truly Eternal.
Are we still on the same page, Jack?
Dan
You are coming from an emotional position. I feel no emotions on any of this. Just the facts of the physics interest me.

Two years later, in 2005, San Francisco physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti recorded a video interview of self-proclaimed CIA eschatologist Dan T. Smith.

And two years prior to an exclusive September 2007 expose’ by Sidney Blumenthal for Salon, Smith revealed that CIA had been pressured to rewrite a National Intelligence Estimate claiming there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

The alleged source of Smith’s information?

Dr. Ronald (Ron) Pandolfi of the CIA.

In the video, Smith explains that his friend, Ron Pandolfi, “is the guy who is, now, high up in intelligence.”

Smith would later blog that Pandolfi — who had been outed as a CIA employee in a series of articles that appeared in the New York Times — claimed to have been put in charge of MASINT, a technical form of intelligence collection related to detection of weapons of mass destruction.

Valerie Plame, the former covert CIA operative who had been outed by the White House, and her husband Joe Wilson, discuss the conflicts at CIA during the days and weeks prior to the US led invasion of Iraq, in a special audio commentary for the new DVD release of “Fair Game,” the film adaptation of their story.

Plame’s version of events are consistent with Smith’s allegations about his friend Pandolfi.

During the video, Smith starts to explain why Pandolfi moved from CIA to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

Sarfatti then pipes in:

“Pandolfi apparently is the guy who wrote the National Intelligence Estimate about the invasion of Iraq, and Pandolfi said there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.”

Smith explains:

“It was his report that he was in charge of, and thirty days before it happened, [they said] this was not acceptable, and Ron recused himself from the National Intelligence Office and went over to MASINT, which he’s now in charge of, a couple years later. So then they [CIA] came out with a second report that said yeah, there are weapons.”

Sarfatti chimes in, “Which is false.”

“As it turned out.”

Smith and Sarfatti had — unwittingly it seems — scoopedSidney Blumenthal’s exclusive story on the Bush Iraq National Intelligence Estimate.

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On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Dan Smith <danthroopsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

Jack,
It sounds to me as though we have a fair basis for a renewed dialog......
What I believe I can bring to this table is a bit more emphasis on the PoV of VALIS/God, which, TBMK, is not something that you and your physics 'fan-base' normally feel comfortable in emphasizing, with the possible exception of David.
Technically our future event horizon is the past light cone of our world line extended to our Penrose conformal END TIME.
It is a computer according to MIT's Seth Lloyd. The future dominates the past because the complexity - channel capacity of the hologram horizon computer is greatest in the future i.e. intelligence is greater.

We have free will because the GOD(D) computer while omni-present is not OMNI-POTENT! Hence EVIL in the world.

For instance, you make a distinction between morality and physics. Yes, of course, superficially there is a difference. But you also speak of Leibniz' physical action principle..... Surely, you are aware that the notion of the best possible world was produced by that same mind, and it seems entirely possible that the concepts of maximal-action and best-possible may be linked, in some deeper structural/mathematical sense. We may simply be adding another dimension to our physical structure.
Now, perhaps the greatest remaining distinction between Jackiantiy and Danianity is simply the technicality of the optimal placement of VALIS wrt the future horizon. But we may already be on the same page, here, as well.....
This placement of the future horizon should strongly depend on the optimal length for human history, which, in turn, should depend on the optimal trajectory for material progress. Given that progress was never meant to be perpetual, then the (apparent) end of (material) progress may well signal the approach of our future horizon/VALIS.

No, your physics is not even wrong. Read Tamara Davis's PhD online - get your basic cosmology correct first.

Then what, we may well ask......?
(cont........)

On Aug 5, 2012, at 8:56 PM, JACK SARFATTI <sarfatti@pacbell.net> wrote:

On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Dan Smith <danthroopsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

Jack,
(cont. from previous post...)
First of all, please consider the possibility the progress may not be perpetual.

No argument for me on that. Bush Jr's parting words leaving White House:

"Apre moi, Le Deluge." ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Baker - what do you make of Russ Baker's research into the Bush Family? I just saw Gore Vidal (2009) talk about it. Your sister was part of their circle. Gore of course is not unbiased, but what about Russ Baker?

This issue relates particularly to the ETH v. the UTH, i.e. the extra- v. ultra-terrestrial hypotheses.
I am not clear if there is any real distinction between E and U. Superior E technology looks like U Magick to the primitive human mind. Entanglement signaling as shown in my toy model equation obliterates the distinction between E and U in my opinion.

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Most folks that you and I know are open to the possibility we have been visited by unearthly beings of one sort or another. If progress is perpetual, then it stands to reason that the ETH is true wrt these visitors. I believe that this represents your view of the situation.
Not quite.

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In above Tamara Davis's Fig 1.1 her Ph.D.

The apex of the Pyramid is infinite metric time - finite conformal Penrose END TIME for us idealized as Immortal Gods (central vertical world line) is the origin of the past light cone of our observer-dependent OMEGA POINT (not same as Tipler's) and it is our future cosmological de Sitter dark energy event horizon. It is a CONSCIOUS GOD(D) HOLOGRAM 2D SCREEN NULL GEODESIC COMPUTER projecting us RETRO-CAUSALLY as 3D dynamic hologram images in literally a VIRTUAL UNIVERSE SUPER-COMPUTER SIMULATION.

The number of qubits is A/4Lp^2 according to Hawking's Mind of God.

The dark energy density accelerating space's expansion is

hc/ALp^2 where we are and from Type 1a supernovae in our past light cone.

the dark energy density on the future event horizon is hc/Lp^4 it gets redshifted (advanced Cramer quantum waves) back from the future.
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• Jack Sarfatti On Aug 6, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Dan Smith <danthroopsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
DS What then........? Then we are homeward bound, our errand into the 'wilderness' having been completed. JS Only if you think I.J. Good's VALIS GOD(D) the supercomputer at the END TIME is not malicious and gives a \$hit about you. That GOD(D) is not malicious may be Einstein's REALLY greatest blunder. ;-)
DS Some of us are surely not ready, just yet, to head back home, to Eternity. All ye, all ye, in-free....? Hey, that's fine with me! We have all the time in the world. Just as long as we want to be down on the farm is fine, but once we've seen Paris/eternity, we me may start feeling a bit homesick. There is a crucial consideration when it comes to the prolongation of Creation. Do keep in mind that, from the PoV of God, Creation is eternal. Only from the perspective of us mortals does it appear that Creation may end. Going home means that we will be returning to the PoV of God, wherein Creation is truly Eternal. Are we still on the same page, Jack? Dan JS You are coming from an emotional position. I feel no emotions on any of this. Just the facts of the physics interest me.
• Jack Sarfatti Gary Bekkum wrote: Two years later, in 2005, San Francisco physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti recorded a video interview of self-proclaimed CIA eschatologist Dan T. Smith.
And two years prior to an exclusive September 2007 expose’ by Sidney Blumenthal for Salon, Smith revealed that CIA had been pressured to rewrite a National Intelligence Estimate claiming there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
The alleged source of Smith’s information?
Dr. Ronald (Ron) Pandolfi of the CIA.
In the video, Smith explains that his friend, Ron Pandolfi, “is the guy who is, now, high up in intelligence.”
Smith would later blog that Pandolfi — who had been outed as a CIA employee in a series of articles that appeared in the New York Times — claimed to have been put in charge of MASINT, a technical form of intelligence collection related to detection of weapons of mass destruction.
Valerie Plame, the former covert CIA operative who had been outed by the White House, and her husband Joe Wilson, discuss the conflicts at CIA during the days and weeks prior to the US led invasion of Iraq, in a special audio commentary for the new DVD release of “Fair Game,” the film adaptation of their story.
Plame’s version of events are consistent with Smith’s allegations about his friend Pandolfi.
During the video, Smith starts to explain why Pandolfi moved from CIA to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Sarfatti then pipes in:
“Pandolfi apparently is the guy who wrote the National Intelligence Estimate about the invasion of Iraq, and Pandolfi said there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.”
Smith explains:
“It was his report that he was in charge of, and thirty days before it happened, [they said] this was not acceptable, and Ron recused himself from the National Intelligence Office and went over to MASINT, which he’s now in charge of, a couple years later. So then they [CIA] came out with a second report that said yeah, there are weapons.”
Sarfatti chimes in, “Which is false.”
“As it turned out.”
Smith and Sarfatti had — unwittingly it seems — scoopedSidney Blumenthal’s exclusive story on the Bush Iraq National Intelligence Estimate.
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• Jack Sarfatti On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Dan Smith <danthroopsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
Jack, It sounds to me as though we have a fair basis for a renewed dialog...... What I believe I can bring to this table is a bit more emphasis on the PoV of VALIS/God, which, TBMK, is not something that you and your physics 'fan-base' normally feel comfortable in emphasizing, with the possible exception of David. Technically our future event horizon is the past light cone of our world line extended to our Penrose conformal END TIME.
It is a computer according to MIT's Seth Lloyd. The future dominates the past because the complexity - channel capacity of the hologram horizon computer is greatest in the future i.e. intelligence is greater.
We have free will because the GOD(D) computer while omni-present is not OMNI-POTENT! Hence EVIL in the world.
For instance, you make a distinction between morality and physics. Yes, of course, superficially there is a difference. But you also speak of Leibniz' physical action principle..... Surely, you are aware that the notion of the best possible world was produced by that same mind, and it seems entirely possible that the concepts of maximal-action and best-possible may be linked, in some deeper structural/mathematical sense. We may simply be adding another dimension to our physical structure. Now, perhaps the greatest remaining distinction between Jackiantiy and Danianity is simply the technicality of the optimal placement of VALIS wrt the future horizon. But we may already be on the same page, here, as well..... This placement of the future horizon should strongly depend on the optimal length for human history, which, in turn, should depend on the optimal trajectory for material progress. Given that progress was never meant to be perpetual, then the (apparent) end of (material) progress may well signal the approach of our future horizon/VALIS.
No, your physics is not even wrong. Read Tamara Davis's PhD online - get your basic cosmology correct first.
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• Jack Sarfatti On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Dan Smith <danthroopsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
Jack, It sounds to me as though we have a fair basis for a renewed dialog. What I believe I can bring to this table is a bit more emphasis on the PoV of VALIS/God, which, TBMK, is not something that you and your physics 'fan-base' normally feel comfortable in emphasizing, with the possible exception of David. JS Technically our future event horizon is the past light cone of our world line extended to our Penrose conformal END TIME. It is a computer according to MIT's Seth Lloyd. The future dominates the past because the complexity - channel capacity of the hologram horizon computer is greatest in the future, i.e. intelligence is greater. We have free will because the GOD(D) computer while omni-present is not OMNIPOTENT! Hence EVIL in the world.
DS For instance, you make a distinction between morality and physics. Yes, of course, superficially there is a difference. But you also speak of Leibniz' physical action principle..... Surely, you are aware that the notion of the best possible world was produced by that same mind, and it seems entirely possible that the concepts of maximal-action and best-possible may be linked, in some deeper structural/mathematical sense. We may simply be adding another dimension to our physical structure. Now, perhaps the greatest remaining distinction between Jackiantiy and Danianity is simply the technicality of the optimal placement of VALIS wrt the future horizon. But we may already be on the same page, here, as well..... This placement of the future horizon should strongly depend on the optimal length for human history, which, in turn, should depend on the optimal trajectory for material progress. Given that progress was never meant to be perpetual, then the (apparent) end of (material) progress may well signal the approach of our future horizon/VALIS. JS Read Tamara Davis's PhD online - get your basic cosmology correct first.
www.physics.uq.edu.au
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• Jack Sarfatti DS This issue relates particularly to the ETH v. the UTH, i.e. the extra- v. ultra-terrestrial hypotheses. JS I am not clear if there is any real distinction between E and U. Superior E technology looks like U Magick to the primitive human mind. Entanglement signaling as shown in my toy model equation obliterates the distinction between E and U in my opinion.
DS Most folks that you and I know are open to the possibility we have been visited by unearthly beings of one sort or another. If progress is perpetual, then it stands to reason that the ETH is true wrt these visitors. I believe that this represents your view of the situation. Not quite.
In Tamara Davis's Fig 1.1 her Ph.D.
The apex of the Pyramid is infinite metric time - finite conformal Penrose END TIME for us idealized as Immortal Gods (central vertical world line) is the origin of the past light cone of our observer-dependent OMEGA POINT (not same as Tipler's) and it is our future cosmological de Sitter dark energy event horizon. It is a CONSCIOUS GOD(D) HOLOGRAM 2D SCREEN NULL GEODESIC COMPUTER projecting us RETRO-CAUSALLY as 3D dynamic hologram images in literally a VIRTUAL UNIVERSE SUPER-COMPUTER SIMULATION. The number of qubits is A/4Lp^2 according to Hawking's Mind of God. The dark energy density accelerating space's expansion is hc/ALp^2 where we are and from Type 1a supernovae in our past light cone. The dark energy density on the future event horizon is hc/Lp^4 it gets redshifted (advanced Cramer quantum waves) back from the future.
DS OTOH, I believe that you are open to the possibility that the situation wrt the visitors may be more nuanced, i.e. they might, more accurately, be described as 'inter-dimensional' beings of some sort. JS Arthur Clarke got it right that advanced technology looks like magic to your simple mind Dan. ;-)
DS So far, so good. Now, allow me to introduce another, possibly very important, piece of the cosmic puzzle..... and this is your contribution, Jack, as much as anybody's...... this is the VALIS holographic computer in our future, which may have been instrumental in the phone call you received, as an adolescent. JS By GOD(D) I think you got it.
DS It may be that our visitors arrive via the same source. And, it may also be that VALIS is the creator of our holographic/virtual reality. If so, it is a small step to supposing that this world has an optimized design plan, and that this plan is intended particularly to optimize our participation in a participatory universe. This is the basic premise of the BPWH. JS Exactly, although it's only BPWH if GOD(D) IS NOT MALICIOUS!
YOU ARE AN OPTIMIST DAN! ;-)
On Aug 5, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Dan Smith <danthroopsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
Jack, What I wish to do is set some ground rules for our prospective dialog....... 1.) I'm not primarily coming out to have you instruct me on your world view. I believe that I already have a fair take on that view. 2.) Rather, I wish for you to consider the possible significance of the BPWH...... Ron has already opined that I am unlikely to get a fair hearing from you, and has recommended against such a trip. Well, I am admittedly a beggar, and beggars can't be too choosy, can we? Is there any chance that we could prove Ron wrong? I, for one, am always on the lookout for a chance to prove Ron wrong. In a subsequent email, or two, I would like to set forth the ground that I wish to cover with you, in a one or two hour discussion, to be video-taped by Kim, as we did a couple of years ago, but now with a bit more structure. I intend to post my part of this exchange on the Open Minds forum...... http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t6p150-hello-cy-hello-omf-ii#324
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