On Jun 26, 2014, at 1:41 PM, JACK SARFATTI <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:

of course :-)

On Jun 26, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Dragan Hajdukovic <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:

DH: We agree about crucial point.
 
JS: Yes, that was my point.

DH: On my comment
 

If your theory is correct, my theory is wrong. If my theory is correct your theory is wrong. As far as I can see our theories have nothing in common; they exclude each other.

you have answered
that may be true

 

Who is right can be answered only by experiments and observations

 

Best regards
Dragan
From: JACK SARFATTI [This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.]
Sent: 26 June 2014 22:04
To: Dragan Hajdukovic

Subject: Re: CERN physicist Dragan Hajdukovic rediscovers my idea that dark energy and dark matter are virtual particles - and has a way to test it.

 
 
Yes Dragan
I have looked at your papers.
I think your work is interesting and of course independent of mine.
I am not at all objecting to your work.
It is not the same as mine in detail, but it does share the same basic core idea that dark matter is not from real particles on the mass shell, but is a virtual particle effect.
I only use MAINSTREAM elementary physics, nothing exotic. 
I tried to put too many independent ideas into one paper giving you the wrong impression - my fault.
Let me clarify for the historical record:
1) Pauli exclusion principle implies fermion-antifermion vacuum energy is negative.
 
2) Lorentz invariance + equivalence principle imply w = -1
 
3) Guv + kTuv = 0
 
imply in weak gravity field limit replacing source term G(mass density)  by G(mass density)(1 + 3w)
 
in isotropic 3D
 
Therefore, virtual fermion-antifermion pairs inside the vacuum have positive quantum vacuum pressure that overcomes their negative energy density giving net dark matter gravity attraction.
 
4) the opposite for virtual bosons giving dark matter as a vacuum effect as many believe anyway. What is new is my dark matter proposal from 2006.
 
The work of Vecchiato and Gai may also be able test my theory as well as yours - I will check that out.

On Jun 26, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Dragan Hajdukovic <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:

Profesor Sarfatti

I read your arXiv preprint 3 years ago and have looked at it again now. However it is evident that you never read my papers. There is a series of my papers but just have a look at two of them:http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212686414000077 and http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00908554

My work is based on the mainstream physics i.e. the Standard Model of Particles and Fields and General Relativity with the only one additional conjecture: quantum vacuum fluctuations act as virtual gravitational dipoles. Hence, virtual particles and antiparticles are supposed to have the gravitational charge of the opposite sign.

Your work is based on the models beyond the Standard Model and General Relativity. Your work includes different speculations like torsion, world hologram conjecture, 10 dimensional space-time…

 
JS: no that is wrong, but it’s my fault not yours for not writing the paper clearly :-)

 

DH: If your theory is correct, my theory is wrong. If my theory is correct your theory is wrong. As far as I can see our theories have nothing in common; they exclude each other.

 
that may be true

 

I wonder why apparently you didn’t sent your objections to Editors of journals in which my papers were published. It is the right scientific reaction, not only to react on articles in concerning popularization of science.

 
JS: again I have no objection to your papers I am only pointing our basic common core idea that gravity attracting dark matter is not from real particles whizzing through space, but from virtual particles inside the quantum vacuum.
 

Regards

Dragan S Hajdukovic