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On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Brian Josephson wrote:

--On 12 April 2011 16:06:56 -0700 JACK SARFATTI <sarfatti@pacbell.net> wrote:

OK why doesn't MIT & Cal Tech et-al send over their people to test it
now that the Swedes have?

What's the point?

To confirm that the Swedes were not hoodwinked somehow. Did they check utility company records during the time of the test?

In case people are wondering how I got Martin F's signature in the RS admissions book, this appeared in a film shown by Martin Rees at the RS's 350 year celebration (when I pointed it out to him he said it was an embarrassment, but soon he may be thinking the reverse).  It is on the copy send to Fellows, and it remains to be seen if it will make it to the web site.  The reason why that page was shown is that Alec Jeffries, who features in the video, is on the same page.

Re your theory, it sounds a bit like the hydrinos postulated by Mills in connection with 'Black Light Power'.


It's not my theory. It's J. P. Vigier's theory. I am not advocating it at all. I am merely pointing out that an atomic orbital explanation MAY be an alternative to a nuclear mechanism. Mills took me and Fred Alan Wolf out to dinner in the mid 1990s at the Washington Square Bar and Grill in San Francisco. He tried to recruit us but we were not tempted. The resemblance of Mill's hydrinos to Vigier's theory I suspect is superficial. Vigier's theory may be wrong, but I suspect Mills's theory is not even wrong.

I gather the latter produces less power and is less reliable.

Brian


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On Apr 13, 2011, at 12:32 AM, Brian Josephson wrote:

Ask Rubbia!

B

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And I forgot Schwinger. So three of you? ;-)


On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:38 AM, Basil Hiley wrote:

Brian was not alone.  Google Julian Schwinger and you will find the relevant references to another Nobel Laureate who was actively involved in trying to understand cold fusion.  In the early days I was at a meeting in Turin where Martin Fleischmann presented some of his experimental findings and it was clear to me that something very interesting was going on. It certainly needed further investigations along the lines Schwinger was pursuing.   Sometimes giving a phenomenon the 'wrong' name can trigger hostility and derision.  I remember as a kid looking at the globe and noticing that if I 'pushed' Africa and South America together they kind of fitted.  Continental drift?  It was declared at that stage to be 'utter rubbish'.  Then much later I saw articles on 'plate tectonics' and continental drift had become part of the established orthodoxy under a different name!  No derision, it is now obvious!

Basil.


On 12 Apr 2011, at 19:06, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

I note for the historical record that if this claim turns out to be true it would be another triumph for Brian Josephson's intuition since he alone among the Nobel Laureates in physics and Fellows of the Royal Society has been the voice crying in the wilderness for years that there is something real in cold fusion claims and has been maligned by so-called "skeptics" for doing so. We live in interesting times. ;-)



On 13 Apr 2011, at 00:06, JACK SARFATTI <sarfatti@pacbell.net> wrote:

so you're the only Nobel Laureate