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From: JACK SARFATTI <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. >Subject: Re: The Truth About Those 'Alien Alloys' in The New York Times' UFO Story - Scientific AmericanDate: December 23, 2017 at 6:24:18 PM PSTTo: "This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. " <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. >
"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill
On Dec 23, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Larry Lemke <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > wrote:
Colleagues,to elaborate a little on what Eric wrote:It is my conjecture (and I suspect that Eric shares it, in some form or another) that these unconventional flying objects employ large scale metamaterials to accomplish their seeming "magic"--in other words, nanoscale engineered materials produced by the square meter.Yes, this is part of what I suggested to DARPA/NASA in 2011 in Orlando Florida - as you mention below.
Such materials would, of course consist of atoms, perhaps of many different elements, and in definite proportions. If one were to conduct, for example, a neutron activation analysis of such a material one would be able to clearly identify the atoms present and their proportions. Such materials would not, strictly speaking, be alloys.To a professional materials scientist (Richard Sachbelen), the term "alloy" has a rather specific meaning. It refers to a combination of two or more metals which were co-melted and well mixed in the liquid phase and then allowed to cool to the solidification point. An alloy, traditionally is in a condition of near maximum entropy. And Richard is undoubtedly correct when he asserts that such alloys are not mystifying. They have been studied informally and informally since the Bronze Age (which is named after an alloy).A metamaterial might contain the same atoms as an alloy and in the same proportions, but would be in a state of extreme negative entropy and would not--strictly speaking--be an alloy.The confusion arises because a materials scientist is using the term "alloy" to mean something different than a media reporter might mean.I came to this conjecture because, during the last 10 years or so, I have been drafting up a paper (unpublished, as yet) titled "What Was the Roswell Memory Foil".Briefly, I conjecture that the witnesses to the so-called Roswell Memory Foil were, in fact, simply reporting their observations to the best of their ability of real, tangible material that they had observed and interacted with. There are now something like a couple of dozen who all reported different aspects of the same material (sort of like the 6 blind men all trying to describe an Elephant by touching different parts of it). In addition to the extreme mechanical properties they described (lightness, strength, hyperelasticity) some also described an unusual thermodynamic property (thermal superconductivity) and an unusual optical property (an optical waveguide effect tangent to the surface of the material). I suspect these can all be economically explained as emergent properties of a metamaterial that was engineered to produce the "low power space-time warping" that Jack suggests is behind the performance of Unconventional Flying Objects. I suspect that the foil produces a highly localized "film" of space-time alteration that separates the interior of the craft into one space-time domain from the exterior, which is in another domain, possibly by the local alteration of permeability/permitivity, as Jack suggested in his 100yr starship presentation. It is this film that acts as an optical wave guide (the wave fronts travel along a geodesic, tangent to the surface). There is at least one theoretical model by which the nanostructures that might produce the permeability/permitivity change would also yield thermal superconductivity and enhanced mechanical properties as a side effect.Of course, I could be wrong.Larry Lemke | Professional Profile - LinkedIn
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On Friday, December 22, 2017, 8:50:43 PM PST, JACK SARFATTI <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > wrote:You should write a letter to Scientific American.
"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill
On Dec 22, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Eric Davis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > wrote:
Ralph Bloomenthal should have said that the materials are composed of elements found in the Periodic Table of atomic elements, but it’s the unusual combination and structuring of the compounds that confounded the materials scientists.Eric
Eric W. Davis, Ph.D., FBIS, AFAIAAChief Science OfficerEarthTech International, Inc.Inst. for Advanced Studies at Austin11855 Research Blvd.Austin, TX 78759-2443e-mail:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Adjunct ProfessorEarly Universe, Cosmology & Strings GroupCenter for Astrophysics, Space Physics& Engineering ResearchBaylor UniversityWaco, TX 76798-7316This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 22, 2017, at 9:07 PM, JACK SARFATTI <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > wrote:
"Point No. 3, though - those buildings full of alloys and other materials - that's a little harder to hand wave away. Is there really a DOD cache full of materials from out of this world?
One of the authors of the Times report, Ralph Blumenthal, had this to say on MSNBC about the alloys: "They have, as we reported in the paper, some material from these objects that is being studied so that scientists can find what accounts for their amazing properties, this technology of these objects, whatever they are." When asked what the materials were, Blumenthal responded, "They don't know. They're studying it, but it's some kind of compound that they don't recognize."
Here's the thing, though: The chemists and metallurgists Live Science spoke to - experts in identifying unusual alloys - don't buy it."I don't think it's plausible that there's any alloys that we can't identify," Richard Sachleben, a retired chemist and member of the American Chemical Society's panel of experts, told Live Science. "My opinion? That's quite impossible."
Alloys are mixtures of different kinds of elemental metals. They're very common - in fact, Sachleben said, they're more common on Earth than pure elemental metals are - and very well understood. Brass is an alloy. So is steel. Even most naturally occurring gold on Earth is an alloy made up of elemental gold mixed with other metals, like silver or copper. [8 Important Elements You've Never Heard Of]
"There are databases of all known phases [of metal], including alloys," May Nyman, a professor in the Oregon State University Department of Chemistry, told Live Science. Those databases include straightforward techniques for identifying metal alloys.
If an unknown alloy appeared, Nyman said it would be relatively simple to figure out what it was made of."
"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill
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From: Kim Burrafato <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. >Subject: The Truth About Those 'Alien Alloys' in The New York Times' UFO Story - Scientific AmericanDate: December 22, 2017 at 1:11:27 PM PSTTo: Jack Sarfatti <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. >,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.