It’s been four years since an explosive feature in The New York Times revealed a shadowy program run by the US military and tasked with investigating — yes, seriously — UFO encounters, accompanied by several videos showing the purported encounters.

Several pilots have come forward since then to discuss what they saw, which they’ve often characterized as oddly-shaped objects that appeared to defy the laws of physics as they hurtled through the air.

Former Pentagon intelligence officer and self-styled UFO whistleblower Luis Elizondo has publicly spoken of his own experiences, though his credibility has at times been called into question.

In a new interview with GQ, Elizondo suggested that pilots who had encountered the craft had ended up with physical symptoms, although his phrasing was ambiguous.

“I’ve got to be careful, I can’t speak too specifically, but one might imagine that you get a report from a pilot who says, ‘Lue, it’s really weird. I was flying and I got close to this thing and I came back home and it was like I got a sunburn. I was red for four days,'” he told the magazine.

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