In this rare and thought-provoking conversation, John Ramirez, a retired CIA officer specialising in signals intelligence and advanced radar systems, and Dr. Jack Sarfatti, a theoretical physicist formerly involved with CIA-affiliated projects like Stargate/Stanford Research Institute , sit down to explore the science and intelligence behind the UAP (UFO) mystery. Together, they examine groundbreaking theories and classified insights—ranging from electro-gravitic propulsion and post-quantum mechanics to sentient plasma orbs and potential U.S.-Russian cooperation on UAPs reverse-engineering exotic technologies and AI from the future here with us now.

Key topics include: • The physics of UAPs and warp-drive propulsion • Post-quantum mechanics and consciousness • Intelligence patterns in orb sightings • The reality and location of recovered non-human technology • The future of disclosure, secrecy and the time element • Are UAPs extraterrestrial, inter-dimensional, or time travellers? This episode bridges the gap between high-level science and deep-cover intelligence, offering fresh insights into one of the greatest mysteries of our time.

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